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Originally Posted by cubedrum
This is obviously very dated and incomplete information. Since this article was published Evander's record is 2-5-2 0KOs. I'm betting Rahman would have caught up to him if the fight had gone longer too. If we rated Tyson just before the Douglas fight, HE finishes top 3. If Ali or Louis had stumble bummed their way through the final 6 years of their careers, they might not be so revered by the boxing writers. If Ali or Louis had said "I had this injury or that injury, and that's why I lost", they definitely wouldn't be thought of so positively. If Tyson's legacy can be so damaged by his post prime ineptness, then Holyfield's can too. Sonny Liston would have murdered Holyfield. Can you imagine Holyfield's reaction against Marciano when Rocky started butting back? Frazier would have hooked over that lazy jab all night. Holyfield against a prime Foreman would have been sad too. Holyfield's shorter reach and mediocre jab, along with Foreman just killing aggressive boxer punchers in his prime, would have made for a short night. I think that even Norton or Holmes would have beaten a prime Holyfield. Even contenders like Quarry or Nino Valdes would have a shot. Who knows when Holyfield might show up "out of shape" or with an "injured shoulder" or "heart trouble" or "halitosis" (Ok the last one is a joke). If the cruiserweight division didn't exist during Evander's reign, he would have had 5 more losses at least, developing his boxing skills against actual heavies. Overrated by almost everyone, especially Evander.
Just a side note, how can someone with as many children outside his marriage as Evander has actually quote the Bible on TV? What an arrogant jackass.
Cube
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Cube your post is foolishness - They are rating for guys in their "primes" not for how they fought during their faded twilight years - (they aren't rating Ali based on his performance Vs Leon Spinks!!).
How can a article from late 1998 discussing Holyfield in his prime be "dated" - That is simple foolishness! - Considering Holy was already passed his prime in 1998 (and therefore any further performances by him have NOTHING to do with a "prime" Holyfield).
You have to be intellectually honest when discussing things like this - If you can't be don't bother joining in (IMO)
I expected more from someone like you regarding this topic (while one doesn't have to agree where to rank someone, your post is childish at best).
And lets not start with Marciano - He is overrated IMO - He fought way too many bums and defended his title Vs bums or way over the hill fighters.
And again, you simply don't know what you are talking about or obviously allow some kind of angst against Holy to cloud your opinion. The simple fact is those like Emanual Stewert, Eddie Futh, the Ring Magazine editor's as well as the half-dozen boxing historians....all say you have egg on your face with regard to your thoughts on Holyfield.
But wait, you are correct and all these people are wrong. Please!