Knuckler, you continue to do just excellent presentations. I was perusing the old forum notes while still trying to learn methods and such myself when I ran across a comment from you back in Nov '04 that said you weren't too good at making circle logos.
What a great contributor you've become here and your talents continue to improve and inspire. Good work. I like that SUN logo a lot.
btw, been wrestling with circles myself but they're on top and have me pinned!