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Originally Posted by Smoothie7745

Like I said, THAT IS TRUE, but what I'm arguing is that the more pitches you throw (as in, to strike these guys out), the more fatigued you get and the harder it is to make quality pitches later in the game...thus making it harder to maintain and complete a no-hitter. A sh*tload of no-nos get broken up in the 8th inning or later, right? The pitchers are tired, it's fatigue. So, ONCE AGAIN, I'm saying that fatigue becomes a bigger factor the more guys you strike out, thus canceling out the plus you get from having a fewer number of BIPs.

The no no would not be broken up if the offensive player would not have put the ball in play.

Originally Posted by dog ation

But it is! Finley, if he was playing in the same time, same defense, same stadium, would be 0.2 runs better than Ryan in an 'average' game, as per almost any metric you can find!

I think dog is making a different argument than you are.