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Old 09-26-2002, 02:26 PM   #31
Scott Vibert
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They aren't necessarily saying its a myth, but that the effects have proven to be statiscally insignificant in studies to date.... these aren't the same things.

Obviously the batter knows what's going on, but their performance in these situations tends to not leave a significant indication in the stats. When you bring something like this up in a simulation forum, it begs the question that if "clutch" effects have failed to show a statistically significant signature, why would they be included in the simulation engine... (I hear the opening of a large can of worms)

I think what you see is a lot of people who believe strongly in "clutch" ability, and can offer anectdotal evidence to support their belief, while those who try and find statiscal evidence to support the "clutch" abillity and aren't finding a statistically significant signature and when they mention there isn't a signature to "prove" the existence of "clutch" ability it becomes a huge debate about the existence of the "clutch" ability.

I'm not in favor of things like "clutch" ratings being included in simulations (barring evidence of a statistically significant signature), but I do remember from my playing days that there are certain people that you feel better having at the plate in a critical point of the game.
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