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Old 09-26-2002, 11:40 AM   #161
Malleus Dei
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Ah, you misunderstand; I was trying to teach the principles of objectivism and analysis to some heretic Relativists, which is an impossible task, and it took me a while to realize it.

This wasn't a debate for me. I was actively trying to teach you guys something. Some of you - not all of you, just some - are, however, incapable of ever learning it and further discussion is pointless.

If any of you feel flamed, my apologies, as I was trying very hard not to personally flame anyone. Not all of you are Relativists; for those of you who are Relativists, I am not angry at you. I feel pity for you, along contempt for whoever it was who filled your head with Relativism.

There are measurable entities and absolute truths in this world and they can be found/revealed/discovered by rigorous investigation, and not all opinions are equal. Without such things as a basis neither this discussion nor any like it can be rationally held, nor can such professions as science and engineering be practiced. There has to be objective common ground, and the "all opinions are equal" of Relativism prevents that.

This also explains several things. The board changed dramatically over the years and now I know what happened in that transition -as the board lost some of its better analysts (viewed by the Relativists as masters of arrogance and constantly attacked) and as it acquired a number of Relativsts it changed in nature. Looking back, the reasons that a number of the more experienced people left make more sense, and a number of statements that have been posted in the past by Relativists that seemed to be just incredibly stupid and/or ignorant at the time now also make sense. Additionally, the frustration I have felt trying to explain simple things to some of you that some of you just never seemed to get now makes me laugh; I always thought that if I could just be clearer or more forceful with the truth it would get through, but these things were things that you could never get. Much of the frustration you felt with me is also obvious; since to some of you with advanced cases of Relativism, here was some guy trying to force you to view things in a manner that you didn't understand, didn't like, and would never accept. I frankly thought that some of you were extremely stupid; it's really quite a relief to know you were just badly taught instead.

The surprise here is that I am going to stop trying to convince you people of things. There is no point to it now. Also, there really is no point flaming me. I realize that some of you won't be able to understand this and will therefore try to manufacture your own insulting explanations - I see some of them, both wrong and amusing, above already - but there really isn't a point to that either.

And I really do hope that you all have a nice day.
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