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Old 03-08-2005, 03:00 PM   #3993
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> GG (based as they apparently are on range factors)
> and DWS are made more unlikely for a player if:
>
> (1) more K's by the team's pitchers which means
> fewer balls in play,

Yep. And we do have some wide splits in K's. Cards, Tigers, Yanks, Pirates over 700, while the White Sox, Giants, Braves, Reds and Dodgers are all under 550. In the majors you're get bigger spreads these days.


> (2) good fielders elsewhere on defense so more outs
> (and fewer errors) accounted for by other players
> than otherwise would been the case,

Tends to happen.


> (3) the player is on the "losing end" of issues
> related to GB percentage and Left/right handed
> pitchers which determine where a ball is hit,

A big one. Especially in the case of a team like the Reds with three across in strong range at 2B-SS-3B. The Indians has strong 2B-SS combos.

That said, teams in the bigs historically *can* have multiple players do very well in DWS. The Yanks with Gordon & Scooter has both do extremely well in DWS.


> and (4) pure randomness as to where the ball is hit.

Yep. And not always random.

When you watch PBP of the games, you'll see a strange number of balls hit in the direction of ****ty fielders. Rettig last year for the Reds had a high DWS for his LF position. He was far and away the _worst_ defensive player on the team - a 2 range LF. In CF was a 7, in RF was a 5 with a 10 arm, in the IF they went 4-8-8-9 from 1B to 3B, and their catcher is one of the best in the game. Several of the pitchers like Bajofer and McGlathery were good fielders for the position as well.

The Reds IF's get nailed because they don't wildly exceed the "expected" numbers of chances given the number of balls in play. A bit of a Catch-22.

I think anyone who looks at the Reds, their fielders, and some of their pitchers *knows* that their defense *collectively* is rather exceptional on the IF. Their pitchers allowed opponents a .251 BA, which is right at league average... despite only having one starter above a 6 Stuff rating, two others at 6, and two others down at 4 and 3. The 3 ate 292 IP, 36 IP more than anyone else... and gave up just 281 H in 292 IP... a pretty amazing number with that weak of Contact.

Their problem is the "collective" and that so many balls are hit on the ground.


John
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