[Johnny Slick]

Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

It's amazing the stuff that people post. I'm a big admirer of Tom Tippett and an owner and player of DMB, and I own Puresim and communicate with Shaun now and then about how I think he could improve it, but somehow some of you think I'm an OOTP fanboy - even though when I started supporting OOTP back in the somewhat-less-than-stellar version 1 days there were about four of us total behind the game. LOL. Plus not long ago I was being taken to task by some of the same people yarping at me in this thread for helping to lead the fight to get OOTP6 patched, and some of them still complain about me leading the fight back in the OOTP3 days to keep the ability to print in OOTP, and you can't have done those things and be a fanboy. It just doesn't work both ways, and I frankly find all of the bogus interpretations in this thread to be rather funny.

"I can't address the 'competition is good' argument, so instead I will puff up the fact that I jumped on board this particular bandwagon before the game was any good."

So supposedly I can't post in Off Topic? LOL, news to me. News for you guys: I don't post there because I don't *want* to post in Off Topic, thank you very much.

Not everything revolves around you, MD. The "OT" sub-thread, for example, had nothing to do with you.

Gee, I thought it was good news that there wasn't another game that did what OOTP did as well as it does.

Gee, I guess you were wrong! For a supposed conservative, you sure have a damn poor idea of how the free market works, or rather is supposed to work.

Sorry, I had no idea that some of you wanted so badly to spend more money on more games. My bad.

If I could spend a hundred dollars a year on 2 good manager sims, I would. I suspect that many if not most of the people on this board feel the same way. It's not ike this represents a significant percentage of any of our incomes.

As to the "competition would improve OOTP" mantra, here's my question for you:

If there *was* competition - let's assume that Game X appears tomorrow that is just as good as OOTP is at the moment - how much more could Markus improve OOTP than he is already improving it for OOTP7?

Did you even bother to read my posts? The whole point about competition is that it opens up channels for improvement that the original designers and, indeed, the original fan base never thought possible. I'd restate the argument, but then again, I already made it. Scroll up.

Let's see, he's doing a complete rewrite, a database revamp, customizable PbP, multiple leagues, etc, etc. What was it that you guys think that competition would drive Markus to do for OOTP7 that he isn't doing already?

I've made a couple of very long posts over the years about things that Markus could add but hasn't for whatever reason. Tool-based fielding, hidden scouting and coaching ratings, and managerial stability ratings, for three. And those are just ideas from one guy. There's no telling what, for example, Shaun Sullivan might decide to implement once PureSim is up to snuff.

My personal take on it is that Markus is taking his game to the next level as it is, even without the presence of serious competition.

Your personal take doesn't understand capitalism.

Based on what's been announced, do you have a different view of what Markus is doing?

I'm not saying that Markus isn't working his tail off and doing everything he believes he can do to make the game better. However, competition breeds improvement. The invisible hand thing again. Scroll up.

And can we do this without the pointless I-don't-like-you flames, please? Thanks.

I'm not a big fan of the flames either, but what did you expect, MD? When you treat everyone who disagrees with you like dirt, did you really believe you were going to be treated like royalty when you made a comment that was, objectively speaking, not very bright?