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Killebrew · 09-06-2002, 07:45 PM

I like Bert but 287 wins in 22 years of playing averages out to 13 wins a year. In his 22 seasons he was a regular starter in all but one year (1982 with Cleveland), so if career length & durability were the most important HOF requirements then he should be in, but if being a dominant pitcher of an era was a requirement then I'm not so sure. Although he was among the top 5 in certain stats several times during his career, I don't recall him ever being considered among the top 5 pitchers - maybe among the top 10 pitchers during a season or two.

Not saying this to controversial though - I was and am a big Blyleven fan when he was with the Twinkies (think I have his 1974 autograph even) and would be thrilled to see him in the hall.

EDIT: wow - looking at Berts bbref page makes me reconsider - wowza:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/blylebe01.shtml

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Black Ink: Pitching - 16 (Average HOFer ~ 40) 
Gray Ink: Pitching - 239 (Average HOFer ~ 185) 
HOF Standards: Pitching - 50.0 (Average HOFer ~ 50) 
HOF Monitor: Pitching - 113.5 (Likely HOFer > 100) 

Act.- Denotes rank among active players, Car. - Denotes career rank 
Click on the Car, Act or Year to see the career, active, or league leaderboard. 


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09-06-2002, 07:45 PM	#6
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	I like Bert but 287 wins in 22 years of playing averages out to 13 wins a year. In his 22 seasons he was a regular starter in all but one year (1982 with Cleveland), so if career length & durability were the most important HOF requirements then he should be in, but if being a dominant pitcher of an era was a requirement then I'm not so sure. Although he was among the top 5 in certain stats several times during his career, I don't recall him ever being considered among the top 5 pitchers - maybe among the top 10 pitchers during a season or two. Not saying this to controversial though - I was and am a big Blyleven fan when he was with the Twinkies (think I have his 1974 autograph even) and would be thrilled to see him in the hall. EDIT: wow - looking at Berts bbref page makes me reconsider - wowza: http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/blylebe01.shtml Code: Black Ink: Pitching - 16 (Average HOFer ~ 40) Gray Ink: Pitching - 239 (Average HOFer ~ 185) HOF Standards: Pitching - 50.0 (Average HOFer ~ 50) HOF Monitor: Pitching - 113.5 (Likely HOFer > 100) Act.- Denotes rank among active players, Car. - Denotes career rank Click on the Car, Act or Year to see the career, active, or league leaderboard. Similar Pitchers View in Pop-up Don Sutton (914) * Gaylord Perry (909) * Fergie Jenkins (890) * Tommy John (889) Robin Roberts (876) * Tom Seaver (864) * Jim Kaat (854) Early Wynn (844) * Phil Niekro (844) * Steve Carlton (840) * Last edited by Killebrew; 09-06-2002 at 07:52 PM.