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angry_malkie · 09-05-2002, 05:05 PM

This may have been said before, but i haven't seen or heard a lot of people sayt it anywhere so...

Why do stats enter into consideration for the MVP award? it's supposed to be awarderded to the most VALUABLE player on a team, not the best, hence the name (or at least i would assume so..).

I know hitting .350 with 125 walks, 50 homers, 120 RBI and 5 GDP would make you not only outstandingly good but also very valuable, as would having an ERA of 1.50, 400Ks, 10 BBs, 350 IP and an OBA of .100. I know a hell of a lot of the time the best and most valuable player on a team is the same guy.

But, from what i can tell, there's no attention payed to a players ability to make a team run better as a unit. No-one ever says "that guy stopped 312 arguments in the dugout, averaging X per game." surely something like that would make your team-mates play better, thus you'd be pretty valuable? or someone who just plain fills a slot on a club that would otherwise be sorely lackingly in that area, but well stocked in the places that are dependant on that player? like a fast high OBP guy on a team that has good batters to bat 2-8, a bench of folk who could start, but needs a lead-off guy? a reliable, rubber-armed middle releiver on a team that has a good rotation and a solid closer, but an otherwise weak bullpen and no starters that can regularly go more than 6 innings?

Maybe i'm missing something, but i can't see how having the best stats automatically makes you the most valuable... I wouldn't consider Jason Giambi that valuable if i already had someone like Todd Helton who yeah, probably isn't as good, but would be able to fill the same place on the club well enough for the team as a whole to do more or less as well without Jason at first.

I spread writing this post between a few other things so it might not make a lot of sense, but you should be able to tell roughly what i mean... And don't take player/stat examples as rigid, i'm just trying to put a point across using the best metaphors and hypothetical situations as i can come up with in a short time.

PLEASE tell me i'm not the only person who thinks like this?

09-05-2002, 05:05 PM	#1
angry_malkie Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 25	MVP Considerations This may have been said before, but i haven't seen or heard a lot of people sayt it anywhere so... Why do stats enter into consideration for the MVP award? it's supposed to be awarderded to the most VALUABLE player on a team, not the best, hence the name (or at least i would assume so..). I know hitting .350 with 125 walks, 50 homers, 120 RBI and 5 GDP would make you not only outstandingly good but also very valuable, as would having an ERA of 1.50, 400Ks, 10 BBs, 350 IP and an OBA of .100. I know a hell of a lot of the time the best and most valuable player on a team is the same guy. But, from what i can tell, there's no attention payed to a players ability to make a team run better as a unit. No-one ever says "that guy stopped 312 arguments in the dugout, averaging X per game." surely something like that would make your team-mates play better, thus you'd be pretty valuable? or someone who just plain fills a slot on a club that would otherwise be sorely lackingly in that area, but well stocked in the places that are dependant on that player? like a fast high OBP guy on a team that has good batters to bat 2-8, a bench of folk who could start, but needs a lead-off guy? a reliable, rubber-armed middle releiver on a team that has a good rotation and a solid closer, but an otherwise weak bullpen and no starters that can regularly go more than 6 innings? Maybe i'm missing something, but i can't see how having the best stats automatically makes you the most valuable... I wouldn't consider Jason Giambi that valuable if i already had someone like Todd Helton who yeah, probably isn't as good, but would be able to fill the same place on the club well enough for the team as a whole to do more or less as well without Jason at first. I spread writing this post between a few other things so it might not make a lot of sense, but you should be able to tell roughly what i mean... And don't take player/stat examples as rigid, i'm just trying to put a point across using the best metaphors and hypothetical situations as i can come up with in a short time. PLEASE tell me i'm not the only person who thinks like this?