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Iceman90 11-06-2024 01:20 AM

NHL Waiver Rules Not In Effect
 
In the real life NHL, once a player has cleared waivers and been assigned to an affiliate, they can be recalled from the AHL and don't need to clear waivers again for 30 days, or 10 games - whichever comes first.


In FHM 11, it seems like a player who is recalled after clearing waivers has to immediately clear waivers again, no matter how long they've been on the NHL team.

Javs 11-06-2024 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman90 (Post 5144425)
In the real life NHL, once a player has cleared waivers and been assigned to an affiliate, they can be recalled from the AHL and don't need to clear waivers again for 30 days, or 10 games - whichever comes first.


In FHM 11, it seems like a player who is recalled after clearing waivers has to immediately clear waivers again, no matter how long they've been on the NHL team.


I agree, this would be nice if implemented!

renojedi 11-06-2024 07:09 AM

This and the no movement clause that attaches to any waiver claim for the whole year really needs to be fixed. I get you can turn it off but a user shouldn't have to. We saw the Lavoie waiver ordeal this year and that cannot happen in this game due to all the ways waiver rules don't match real life.

As an NHL licensed game, I really wish they would put the time into fixing this.

northjersey 11-07-2024 08:33 AM

this is why is use commissioner mode, to get around these issues

Iceman90 11-07-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by northjersey (Post 5144669)
this is why is use commissioner mode, to get around these issues


That works for my team, but not for the rest in my league.

northjersey 11-07-2024 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman90 (Post 5144680)
That works for my team, but not for the rest in my league.


the other teams players may have to go through waivers, but you can reassign them back to their correct team, with commissioner mode enabled.


If you enable "no movement clause" for the players, they may not get waived (but this doesn't always seem to work from my experience)

bmason 11-07-2024 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northjersey (Post 5144726)
If you enable "no movement clause" for the players, they may not get waived (but this doesn't always seem to work from my experience)

I've seen in the past a player I waived get claimed and then waived again by the team that had him. When I brought it up, whoever on the dev team answered told me that the AI can basically ignore that rule if an AI team is in a roster jam and there's no other way to resolve it.

That was FHM10 though, I don't know if 11 still allows for that. Maybe the new coding to encourage AI teams to try and dump a player in a trade before waiving them figures into trying to avoid that circumstance.

Iceman90 01-05-2025 08:54 PM

I know that this was supposed to have been corrected in a recent patch, but it doesn't seem to have been.

I have a player who cleared waivers in September on "waiver day", and now I have recalled him for a single game in March - but he has to clear waivers again. He wasn't on the NHL team for 30 days, nor 10 games.

JeffR 01-10-2025 07:39 AM

If he cleared in September and you recalled him in March, the 30-day limit would have passed and he'd need to be waived again if you sent him down. Or am I misunderstanding what you're describing?

bmason 01-10-2025 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffR (Post 5157125)
If he cleared in September and you recalled him in March, the 30-day limit would have passed and he'd need to be waived again if you sent him down. Or am I misunderstanding what you're describing?

The game isn't implementing "30 days" correctly if what you just described is what its logic is.

It's not "30 days after clearing you have to re-clear waivers" in the NHL. It's "once you have cleared waivers, you have to be called up for 30 days before you have to re-clear again" (or play 10 games, but I know the game isn't trying to emulate that). So one should be able to call up a player for one game and then send him back because it's not been 30 days since he was called up before being sent down again.

Hawkeye21 01-10-2025 01:13 PM

This is what the Hurricanes website states:
https://www.nhl.com/hurricanes/team/transaction-primer

Iceman90 01-10-2025 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffR (Post 5157125)
If he cleared in September and you recalled him in March, the 30-day limit would have passed and he'd need to be waived again if you sent him down. Or am I misunderstanding what you're describing?

The NHL rule states that the 30 day counter doesn't start until the player is recalled. They can stay in the AHL as long as the team wants, but as soon as the recall is made, the 30 days or 10 games limit kicks in. And it doesn't have to be 30 consecutive days, just 30 days total in one season.

Iceman90 02-12-2025 04:01 PM

Is there any plan to finally get modern NHL waivers implemented correctly?

Puckpedia has info on how waivers work if there is still confusion.

https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/waivers


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