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English_Ray 06-17-2009 11:34 AM

Several schedule requests, some pretty tricky...
 
Hi scheduling Gods (ie gmo!:hello!!:) I have a whole bunch of requests here, some of which are for leagues with an odd number of teams in, so if they're too complicated to work with, just let me know - I will understand!

Also, I don't need them all right now, but I figured I may as well post them all in one go, and then they could be worked on at the leisure of anyone who can help. They're in the order in which I'll be using them.

Here they are:

1 subleague, 8 teams, 105 games
1 subleague, 9 teams, 96 games
1 subleague, 8 teams, 84 games
1 subleague, 6 teams, 35 games
1 subleague, 8 teams, 130 games
2 subleagues, 8 teams/7 teams, 130 games
2 subleagues, 7 teams/7 teams, 120 games
2 subleagues, 6 teams/7 teams, 130 games
2 subleagues, 6 teams/8 teams, 130 games
2 subleagues, 6 teams/6 teams, 130 games

Like I said thats a whole load, so there is really no urgency on them. I have no preferances on start dates, off days, etc. Would prefer to have no interleague, but its not a deal-breaker! All-star break would be good in the two subleague schedules, but not needed in the 1 subleague ones. If the number of games works out awkwardly, I would not mind at all if they are adjusted to a similar, easier number.

Many, many thanks in advance for any help! :)

gmo 06-19-2009 07:18 PM

Since you are flexible with start days & offdays, I would approach this as doing 4/5/6 games a week depending on how the series need to fall as 2-game and 3-game. Lengths will thus tend to vary, but start date you can always manually adjust.

No interleague is actually helpful, as there can thus be re-use. E.g., the 1 subleague 8-team/130-game can be used also for the 2-subleague setups with 130 games and an 8-team subleague.

Odd numbers of teams are an issue in that some team has to be off while the rest are playing. There is no way around that.

The odd numbers of games for a couple I would be inclined to adjust to an even number. I know 6-teams/35-games mean each opponent is played 7 times, but it also means that the home/away splits for teams are not even. I can do it that way, but I consider it more "fair" (mainly I guess because it is much more common) to have all teams play equal numbers of games home & away even if there is thus not perfect balance versus all opponents.

English_Ray 06-19-2009 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmo (Post 2762090)
Since you are flexible with start days & offdays, I would approach this as doing 4/5/6 games a week depending on how the series need to fall as 2-game and 3-game. Lengths will thus tend to vary, but start date you can always manually adjust.

No interleague is actually helpful, as there can thus be re-use. E.g., the 1 subleague 8-team/130-game can be used also for the 2-subleague setups with 130 games and an 8-team subleague.

Odd numbers of teams are an issue in that some team has to be off while the rest are playing. There is no way around that.

The odd numbers of games for a couple I would be inclined to adjust to an even number. I know 6-teams/35-games mean each opponent is played 7 times, but it also means that the home/away splits for teams are not even. I can do it that way, but I consider it more "fair" (mainly I guess because it is much more common) to have all teams play equal numbers of games home & away even if there is thus not perfect balance versus all opponents.

Cool, that all sounds alright by me. Like I said, I'm very flexible! Re: the odd number of teams - I don't have a problem with one team being off for a series while the others play. And if, say, a 40 game schedule works better than 35, then that really is not a problem at all. Anything you can do would be hugely appreciated. :thumbup1:

gmo 07-03-2009 01:22 PM

I am making progress on these. Questions about the 7-team schedules.

First, the one that has 120 games is indeed 120 and not 130 like the others, correct?

Next, with 7 teams one must be off at any given time. For every 7 half-weeks, a team would only be playing on 6 series and would have one half-week off. To keep from having to make the 6-team and 8-team longer, would you be okay with teams having doubleheaders relatively commonly? Teams could thus have like 2 doubleheaders during a 3-week period, but then have 3-4 straight days off when their turn to not be in a matchup comes up.

English_Ray 07-03-2009 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmo (Post 2772898)
I am making progress on these. Questions about the 7-team schedules.

First, the one that has 120 games is indeed 120 and not 130 like the others, correct?

Yep, its 120 games.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmo (Post 2772898)
Next, with 7 teams one must be off at any given time. For every 7 half-weeks, a team would only be playing on 6 series and would have one half-week off. To keep from having to make the 6-team and 8-team longer, would you be okay with teams having doubleheaders relatively commonly? Teams could thus have like 2 doubleheaders during a 3-week period, but then have 3-4 straight days off when their turn to not be in a matchup comes up.

Yeah, I'm more than happy to have doubleheaders in, as many as is needed to make things work best.

Many, many thanks again for helping on this gmo.

gmo 07-05-2009 07:36 PM

1 Attachment(s)
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# 8 team schedule, 106 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 1 subleague with 1 division with 8 teams
#
#
# 15-16 games against 7 other teams in division (7-8H/7-8A)
#
#
# Offdays somewhat more frequent than modern MLB
# with fairly common 2-game series
#
# No cases of more than 20 straight days without offday
#
# No homestands or roadtrips longer than 14 games
#
# All game times set at 7:05pm
#
# Season begins first Monday on or after April 1
# Season thus ends in early August
#
# No All-Star Game set
#

gmo 07-05-2009 07:38 PM

1 Attachment(s)
#
# 9 team schedule, 96 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 1 subleague with 1 division with 9 teams
#
#
# 12 games against 8 other teams in division (6H/6A)
#
#
# Series are all 3-game, two per week
# Every team is off for at least one day each week (either Mon or Thu)
# Also with odd number of teams one team off for each half-week
#
# No cases of more than 9 straight days without offday
#
# No homestands or roadtrips longer than 12 games
#
# All game times set at 7:05pm
#
# Season begins first Monday on or after April 1
# Season thus ends in early August
#
# No All-Star Game set with single division configuration
#

gmo 07-05-2009 07:39 PM

8 team schedule, 84 games

gmo 07-05-2009 07:40 PM

1 Attachment(s)
#
# 6 team schedule, 36 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 1 subleague with 1 division with 6 teams
#
#
# 7-8 games against 5 other teams in division (3-4H/3-4A)
#
#
# Teams play 4-5 games per week in two series
# Mostly 2-game series with some 3-game series
#
#
# No homestands or roadtrips longer than 12 games
#
# All game times set at 7:05pm
#
# Season begins first Monday on or after April 1
# Season thus ends late May
#
# No All-Star Game set with only 1-division configuration
#

gmo 07-05-2009 07:42 PM

1 Attachment(s)
#
# 8 team schedule, 130 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 1 subleague with 1 division with 8 teams
#
#
# 18-19 games against 7 other teams in division (9-10H/9-10A)
#
#
# No cases of more than 20 straight days without offday
#
# No homestands or roadtrips longer than 13 games
#
# All game times set at 7:05pm
#
# Season begins first Friday after first Monday on or after April 1
# Season thus ends in early September
#
# No All-Star Game set with one-division configuration
# But mid-season break in early/mid-July
#

gmo 07-05-2009 07:44 PM

1 Attachment(s)
#
# 15 team schedule, 130 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 2 subleagues, each with 1 division,
# with 8 teams in first subleague and 7 teams in second subleague
#
# First subleague:
#
# * 18-19 games against 7 other teams in division (9-10H/9-10A)
# * No cases of more than 20 straight days without offday
# * No homestands or roadtrips longer than 13 games
#
# Second subleague:
#
# * 21-22 games against 6 other teams in division (10-11H/10-11A)
# * One team off at all times because of odd number of teams
# * Extended stretches of continuous days with games between those periods
# * 5-9 doubleheaders per team also
# * No homestands or roadtrips longer than 16 games
#
# All game times set at 7:05pm
#
# Season begins first Friday after first Monday on or after April 1
# Season thus ends in early September
#
# All-Star Game set for early/mid-July
#

gmo 07-05-2009 07:45 PM

1 Attachment(s)
#
# 14 team schedule, 120 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 2 subleagues, each with 1 division, each with 7 teams
#
#
# 20 games against 6 other teams in division (10H/10A)
#
# no interleague games
#
#
# No homestands or roadtrips longer than 14 games
#
# No team plays more than 20 straight days without an offday
#
# All game times set at 7:05pm
#
# Season begins first Friday after first Monday on or after April 1
# Season thus ends in early September
#
# All-Star Game set for early/mid-July
#

gmo 07-05-2009 07:47 PM

1 Attachment(s)
#
# 13 team schedule, 130 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 2 subleagues, each with 1 division,
# with 6 teams in first subleague and 7 teams in second subleague
#
# First subleague:
#
# * 26 games against 5 other teams in division (12-14H/12-14A)
# * No cases of more than 20 straight days without offday
# * No homestands or roadtrips longer than 14 games
#
# Second subleague:
#
# * 21-22 games against 6 other teams in division (10-11H/10-11A)
# * One team off at all times because of odd number of teams
# * Extended stretches of continuous days with games between those periods
# * 5-9 doubleheaders per team also
# * No homestands or roadtrips longer than 16 games
#
# All game times set at 7:05pm
#
# Season begins first Friday after first Monday on or after April 1
# Season thus ends in early September
#
# All-Star Game set for early/mid-July
#

gmo 07-05-2009 07:49 PM

1 Attachment(s)
#
# 14 team schedule, 130 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 2 subleagues, each with 1 division,
# with 6 teams in first subleague and 8 teams in second subleague
#
# First subleague:
# * 26 games against 5 other teams in division (12-14H/12-14A)
#
# Second subleague:
# * 18-19 games against 7 other teams in division (9-10H/9-10A)
#
#
# No cases of more than 20 straight days without offday
#
# No homestands or roadtrips longer than 14 games
#
# All game times set at 7:05pm
#
# Season begins first Friday after first Monday on or after April 1
# Season thus ends in early September
#
# All-Star Game set for early/mid-July
#

gmo 07-05-2009 07:51 PM

1 Attachment(s)
#
# 12 team schedule, 130 games
# Designed for the following configuration:
# 2 subleagues, each with 1 division with 6 teams
#
#
# 26 games against 5 other teams in division (12-14H/12-14A)
#
# no interleague games
#
#
# No cases of more than 20 straight days without offday
#
# No homestands or roadtrips longer than 14 games
#
# All game times set at 7:05pm
#
# Season begins first Friday after first Monday on or after April 1
# Season thus ends in early September
#
# All-Star Game set for early/mid-July
#

English_Ray 07-06-2009 04:53 AM

gmo, you quite simply rule. Thank you so much for these, fantastic stuff. If you are ever in Edinburgh, then there is a pint with your name on it. :friday:

Cheers,
John


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