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Weiss 03-08-2019 09:59 AM

FHM 6 Idea's
 
Just a thought....maybe we should start a sticky thread showcasing what we may like to see in the next FHM and create discussion points from that? but anyway..

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I used to play a big time football manager player and loved how they improved upon their off field management system every year and I think it is something that would make FHM better.

One of my favourite elements of FM before I stopped playing was the morale and press conference implementation.

Before, during and after every game you had the opportunity to work the press, tell them a little about tactics, trade rumours, a player you were expecting to make an impact or talk about injuries etc. And it would have an impact on the morale and confidence of your team, individual players, the owner and the fan base but the best part is that it made you feel like you were living the life of a real manager and you had consequences to what you said (I remember getting fired because I slammed the team who weren't playing well, then we lost and I got sacked).

I think something like this would add an extra dimension to FHM that would allow you to be more integrated into the game - I don't sim seasons I play them out every game, tweaking lines, minutes, players etc, and like to try live the life, which is the purpose of the game isn't it?

I can see part of this evolve since playing FHM 3 with the odd morale or stat boost/decline when there is a charity event etc where a player every so often does something as well as how the player is feeling in terms of ice time etc, which are really nice implementations.

Take this for instance, if I was chasing a player for awhile, and spent a few weeks trying to figure out a trade with the team he was on that worked, and I was in a pregame press conference and was asked 'there are rumours that you have been pursuing a certain player, or that your looking for a winger to compliment your line', would give us options to confirm/deny or poke the bear.

In turn this could have a few potential effects:
  • A positive effect on the player you are trying to sign if you are a successful team.
  • A positive effect on some players on your team that may get a boost for excitement of a new player to help the team round out.
  • A negative effect on the team that owns the player cause you are stirring the pot and trying to go under them.
  • Anegative effect on individuals on your team that may be playing that spot and may feel that you have lost faith in them and that you are replacing them.

and lots of other consequences etc. But this happens every press conference in the NHL and is something greatly missed, at least for me.

Another feature they also have is that you could hold team chats about once a week, as well as individual player chats often. This could allow you to pump the team up down the stretch, or give them the hairdryer treatment to try motivate them to get out of the dirt and start scoring and winning. There was also an option at handing over part way to your captain to try big them up as well, with individual conversations geared towards you wanting more from the player, telling them what you expect from them (which in turn can influence their stats as they work in different areas of there game), this could have a positive impact or a negative, if they feel like your singling them out etc.

I listen to a lot of podcasts, listen and watch a lot of games, and there is always these types of chats about coaches talking to their players individually, or as the team that clearly has an impact and results. And as I play FHM 5 (right now having a 5 game loosing streak after an 11 game winning one) it would be an extra dimension to spice the game up and add to realism.

I know it would be an intense amount of work to implement but would be something smart to be able to play with, as towards the end of the year I get burnt out playing that years FHM because sometimes it just feels like I do the same thing over and over, I would see a format that was something like:

Day of game there is the press conference about the players and the game, with maybe a few chats about the team and the opponent.

At the end of every period you have the opportunity to have a team talk to inspire the team (can have negative consequences) or ask your captain or assistant caps to try inspire the team.

At the end of the game you have another press meet talking about the game, highlighting players talking about opponents etc.

Then during the week you have the options to talk to the team, and talk to individual players to try get them going or to reassure them they are on the right path.

In game chats can have temp boosts to stats or decline, depending on how it went, which influence the game and in the long run influence player/coach relations.

I am a huge FHM fan and would love to see the game continue to get better and better and become more real.

Alessandro 03-08-2019 11:57 AM

I think it would be awesome to have even just half of the things described :D

Tyrnac 03-08-2019 12:37 PM

I heartily second those suggestions! I too used to play a lot of FM, and I really miss the press conferences and team talks. I really liked building a team with a similar mentality to maximize the benefits of those halftime talks. I'd also love the chance to scream at my defensemen when they give up 20 shots on goal in a single period, or single out a line or goalie for particular praise when they are playing really well.

Weiss 03-11-2019 11:05 AM

Exactly. I feel like it would add and an element of feeling like you are the manager.

For instance - I am 4 years into a Canucks game, I have won the Stanley the past two years with a stacked team, and managed the minutes of each player to make sure they aren't unhappy about that.

Due to using my third line has a skill line with a little grit. I reserve my 4th line to being physical which works for my winger and centre, apart from Virtanen who sits on the RW. He isn't too happy about having 4th liner ice time, even though he is on the PK.

I tried to renew his contract cause he is a decent all rounder, but due to his unhappiness he told me he is going to test the market.

But I have no recourse for this. I can only try trade him, which I will. But it isn't ideal - there could and should be an option to tell him that you will attempt to give him further ice time, or for him to work harder and if you notice the changes he can move up a line. But there isn't and he will be traded.

Would be nice to be able to have some form of interaction.

geisterhome 03-26-2019 10:09 AM

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Another small suggestion, maybe we can improve the looks of the default jersey and maybe add a few different versions of it?

JeffR 03-26-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by geisterhome (Post 4461489)
Another small suggestion, maybe we can improve the looks of the default jersey and maybe add a few different versions of it?

Yeah, I just put that exact thing on the to-do list the other the other day. That stripe needs to go, at a minimum.

Steven547 03-29-2019 12:10 PM

I would love to see "one-off" games. The ability to play a single exhibition game between any teams (current or historic).

SirMichaelJordan 03-31-2019 03:56 PM

FHM 6 Idea's
 
I would really appreciate more settings for customization. Particularly for injury rate and trade difficulty. Basically settings similar to OOTP baseball.

Training camp would also be welcomed or at the very least a preseason where the AI will expand its roster to experiment with different players and lines instead of playing the same lines as they would if it was the regular season.


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Junglerock13 04-02-2019 11:16 AM

Training camp and a more in depth preseason would definitely be awesome. Being able to get your prospects into some preseason games, and see how they have progressed during training camp would make sense. Being able to bring in players that you haven't signed to contracts yet for training camp and give them a chance to measure their skills.

Also I love in OOTP being able to ask a team what it would take to make a trade work for them. It can be frustrating trying to make a trade and having to tweak it for 15 minutes just to get them to say yes.

It would also be cool to update the draft a bit, making it more of its own thing that you can make trades and just be a little bit more immersive.

With another expansion draft coming in a few years, I think it would be good to re work the current expansion draft as well. Being able to expand more than just 1 team at a time would be nice, I think this was actually possible in FHM 4, and being able to choose from the two different protection formats would be cool too. Sometimes I have to expose a player I want to keep and protect a player I don't want and its frustrating.

Mr. Marlin 04-02-2019 03:30 PM

I just posted this in a different thread but I'll repeat it here. Keep expanding the PbP. Have the announce mention who is defending on odd man rushes, how the defense is set up, how the offense is set up. More, more more.

geisterhome 04-06-2019 09:15 AM

Another minor thing, maybe I'm missing smth and it is in the game already..

Anyways in case it isn't, I'd like to have OFF(offenss) as a sortable rating, for example it could be added under skater ratings, right now I can just find it as a rating in the little player popup window, defense (DEF) on the other hand can be found unter skater ratings.

croatian 04-18-2019 04:56 PM

Please can two following things be adressed in FHM 6 ?!

Young players (which are not "next one's") shouldn't be demanding numbers that are already taken by older (better/more popular players) and get mad/unhappy if they don't get it.

Second - AHL call ups (for example in my Colorado save guys like Kosmachuk or Agozzino) shouldn't get unhappy due to low(er) ice time they get. I don't know what they expected when they got called up, to have more minutes than MacKinnon ?!

Please take care of that.

Otherwise game is great, I enjoy it and hope for even better games in future. Cheers :)

croatian 04-18-2019 05:31 PM

Another idea....Hall of fame for leagues/countries that has it, like Czech, Sweden, Finland, Russia, Germany and IIHF Hall of Fame.

Colorado 04-23-2019 05:05 PM

Very basic idea but will improve playability: Use space bar to continue on the in-game screen when there are breaks in play. Currently need to click the cross if a penalty and then click play to resume.

Pressing space for this function would be much easier.

Sebastian Palkowski 04-24-2019 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Colorado (Post 4479077)
Very basic idea but will improve playability: Use space bar to continue on the in-game screen when there are breaks in play. Currently need to click the cross if a penalty and then click play to resume.

Pressing space for this function would be much easier.

You donīt need to click the cross first, just hit play again (saves at least one click if you want ;)).

Colorado 04-24-2019 10:06 AM

One more: Setting individual line tactics.

If you click on a player to see his attributes when setting individual line tactics, when you go back to the tactics screen it always has the first line ticked.

So, if you editing tactics on say, your fourth line, and you check a centre's strength attribute, when you go back, the first line is ticked.

I've overridden the wrong line's tactics a couple of times due to this so would be a nice user friendly adjustment.

Sebastian Palkowski 04-24-2019 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Colorado (Post 4479378)
One more: Setting individual line tactics.

If you click on a player to see his attributes when setting individual line tactics, when you go back to the tactics screen it always has the first line ticked.

So, if you editing tactics on say, your fourth line, and you check a centre's strength attribute, when you go back, the first line is ticked.

I've overridden the wrong line's tactics a couple of times due to this so would be a nice user friendly adjustment.

Thanks, will make sure to fix it.

geisterhome 04-28-2019 03:51 AM

Small idea, maybe make winning trophy a bigger deal, like I just won the Stanley cup and I sim all games, I didn't get any notification that I won. I thought maybe I mixed smth up and had to go back into the standings screen to see I won the series by 4:1.

So maybe a pop up, small text, congratulations... , with a picture of the Stanley cup. If not that at least a message, maybe a small background, like after not winning the cup for x years/ winning the cup the 3rd time in 4 years/ after finishing out of the playoffs the last 3 years/going from worst to first/.... endless possibilities.

Same could be done if one of your players wins an individual award, pop up, photo of the award..

geisterhome 04-28-2019 09:55 AM

Like when I make offers for my unsigned draftees, I get messages like: I'll sign if no other teams matches that offer, or your offer is the best I have recieved so far. Maybe when it comes to signed young draftees it should be a different wording?

Colorado 04-28-2019 10:04 AM

I mean this post in a completely constructive manner, so please don't feel I'm being hyper critical as I like the game and want to see it reach its potential.

For me the two areas which require the most improvement in FHM 6 are during the actual games and the general navigation/user friendliness of the game as a whole.

In-game, I'd say there needs to be feedback to explain why a team isn't performing and what needs to change in the tactics. Maybe I'm just not very good at the game, but the tactical stuff still feels very random (which I know it isn't) but I think that is because the information isn't portrayed clearly enough: why is my team not playing well, what are my options to change it? We know in the settings that certain tactics are more effective against others but when in a game, this becomes irrelevant.

With regards to the user-friendliness of the game, it still feels that most things require a click too many to get to and some screens don't give enough relative information. I think EHM despite becoming quite dated is still superior in this aspect of the game and the developers would do well to study has easy it is to navigate and find information and look to apply a similar approach to FHM 6.

A couple of quick examples being the player attributes can't be utilised via the training screen, and the player's average game rating doesn't show on thier first page, the trade block screen also feels hidden.

Only my opinions of course.


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