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Landeskog92 03-06-2013 12:30 PM

Colorado Avalanche

RW John Mitchell should be C

Why Joe Sacco job - player??? He's head coach

OpusTheFowl 03-06-2013 12:43 PM

Not sure how close RL salaries are supposed to compare to the stating values in FHM but here is one that's off...

Rick Dipietro
In game: $525K NHL / $336K minor
IRL: $4.5M

Is this (error) something we should be watching for?

Vikke 03-06-2013 12:51 PM

His contract is correct in the database at least.

OpusTheFowl 03-06-2013 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikke (Post 3457439)
His contract is correct in the database at least.

I don't understand. Correct relative to what? Or are you saying that the values are not being quarried correctly?

Sorry, just a little fuzzy here...:p

JeffR 03-06-2013 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OpusTheFowl (Post 3457641)
I don't understand. Correct relative to what? Or are you saying that the values are not being quarried correctly?

Sorry, just a little fuzzy here...:p

Vikke means his data is in the game's database properly (he's a researcher, he can see the original files), so something is going wrong elsewhere. He's actually in the database with Bridgeport, and we had a similar report of Tim Connolly's salary being too low, so I think something is happening to guys with high NHL salaries who start in the AHL. I'll make a bug report and we'll get it checked out.

OpusTheFowl 03-06-2013 06:08 PM

Perfect...If it's just an extrapolation error then there is no point in us keep our eyes open for more of these until the lower level/high$ guys are fixed in the next release...

TY...

JeffR 03-06-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Landeskog92 (Post 3457426)
Colorado Avalanche

RW John Mitchell should be C

Why Joe Sacco job - player??? He's head coach

Ah, Sacco's job was left blank (probably by me) in the database, so it defaults to player (even though he can't actually play.) It'll get fixed.

Loosie 03-06-2013 11:14 PM

Is there a way to edit jersey numbers in game right now? I noticed that Kadri is listed with his Marlies number (13) in the Maple Leafs roster (should be 43), also Komorov has #87 which he does wear internationally, but his Leafs number is 47

JeffR 03-08-2013 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loosie (Post 3457929)
Is there a way to edit jersey numbers in game right now? I noticed that Kadri is listed with his Marlies number (13) in the Maple Leafs roster (should be 43), also Komorov has #87 which he does wear internationally, but his Leafs number is 47

Not at the moment, we need to add one.

azhockeynut 03-08-2013 12:29 PM

personnel
 
I assume the coaching staffs etc have some work to be done.
for example most of the coaching and scouting staff in Phoenix is terrible according to ratings..... well, anyone that can do what they have done on no budget, fans, etc is FAR from terrible.
just an observation.
Mike Smith turned into a top shelf Goalie/Vezina contender after a lifetime as a backup, LaBarberra has resurrected his career, Bryz.... Sean Burke is a genious with Goalies and gets a lot of bang for his buck.... and Dave King or Dave Tippett?... probably don't need to say much more.

archibalduk 03-08-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azhockeynut (Post 3458976)
I assume the coaching staffs etc have some work to be done.

That's right. We haven't begun rating staff quite yet.

lightz 03-08-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azhockeynut (Post 3458976)
I assume the coaching staffs etc have some work to be done.
for example most of the coaching and scouting staff in Phoenix is terrible according to ratings..... well, anyone that can do what they have done on no budget, fans, etc is FAR from terrible.
just an observation.
Mike Smith turned into a top shelf Goalie/Vezina contender after a lifetime as a backup, LaBarberra has resurrected his career, Bryz.... Sean Burke is a genious with Goalies and gets a lot of bang for his buck.... and Dave King or Dave Tippett?... probably don't need to say much more.

Personnel haven't been done for any team yet and most of the stuff they do haven't been implemented either so it will get better in the future.

mgom27 03-09-2013 04:42 PM

Brad Shaw might be part of the Blues but isn't their Head Coach.

Merla 03-10-2013 08:02 AM

Erik Karlsson is very underrated, or badly underachieving to say the least. He's not had more than 35 points in any season (simmed approx. 30 seasons).

mgom27 03-10-2013 08:52 AM

Most of the Teams unsigned Prospects are missing or I could be wrong.

Habsfan18 03-11-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merla (Post 3460283)
Erik Karlsson is very underrated, or badly underachieving to say the least. He's not had more than 35 points in any season (simmed approx. 30 seasons).

The database is still very much a work in progress.

Holden Caulfield 03-12-2013 12:06 AM

There is a long list of mistakes in the cases of who should be a RFA instead of UFA...in my Jets season in 0.9.4 after one season for example there was G Edward Pasquale, C Eric O'Dell, D Will O'Neill, etc...all seem to be young guys that start in the AHL on their second contracts...

CeeBee 03-12-2013 01:11 PM

Cory Schneider: Scouting Report- Schneider has no feel for the game whatsoever, flat out no hockey sense
( hope he knows which end of the stick is down? )

Roberto Luongo : Scouting Report - Luongo has no vision at all
( yikes, he's turning into Manny Malhotra)

Edster007 03-12-2013 09:08 PM

Small item. Playing 1975, clicked on free agent Marc Tardif and proceeded to offer contract. In his dialouge box he was treating it as if I were offering a contract extension. I randomly clicked through several other FA's and Tardif is the only one I came across who that happened with.

Saul Goodman 03-13-2013 04:41 AM

Just a couple of notes on positions of some Anaheim players, being that they should be set to 20, and their current listed positions on FHM should be reduced

Kyle Palmieri - RW (listed as C on FHM) - Not sure what he did in college, but has been a RW his entire pro career with Syracuse / Anaheim
Nick Bonino - C (listed as RW on FHM) - Never played wing in Anaheim or AHL
Emerson Etem - RW (listed as C on FHM) - I think he played some center in junior? But my understanding he played mostly on the wing in Medicine hat, and he's been purely a RW in Norfolk and Anaheim
Corey Perry - RW (listed as LW on FHM) - Hasn't played left wing in 4+ years in Anaheim, even then I'm unsure if he ever has

I'd also say Coglaino should have his LW rating raised to 20 and RW to around 17 and reduced in center. While he's 'officially' listed as center, he's barely played center while in Anaheim and is purely used as a winger.

Ducks Roster - Anaheim Ducks - Team

Note: If positions are dealt with later then never mind, just thought I'd put it up anyway :)

Edster007 03-16-2013 10:51 PM

A couple of notes, just finished 1975. In the finals during game Rangers vs Leafs, the two teams names appeared at the top near score and shots but down by which line was on the ice it had KC and North Stars (the two teams that lost in the conference final.

Another thing that just caught my eye during the season if a game ended in a tie on the calendar on top of the screen it says "Drawn at Bos 3-3. Seems odd, but maybe it's just me but I would think "at Bos 3-3 T (or W,L).

silvam14 03-17-2013 08:39 AM

Watched the Bruins game against the Capitals yesterday and noticed that Mike Ribeiro is now number 9, not 63

Big T 03-17-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvam14 (Post 3463931)
Watched the Bruins game against the Capitals yesterday and noticed that Mike Ribeiro is now number 9, not 63

That doesn't add up! :D

Parker27 03-17-2013 11:35 AM

Mike Brown is still Toronto. Toronto traded him to Edmonton Oilers.

sting004 03-18-2013 06:02 PM

I'm still kind of curious as to who did the initial player ratings. I know its a work in progress of course...it's just kind of funny to see good players become superstars and superstars become very, very average.

:)

I've re-done almost all NHL teams at this point and have gotten it pretty realistic. I had to tone down the Rangers the most...I'd like whatever that guy was smoking haha!

Lukas Berger 03-18-2013 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sting004 (Post 3464527)
I'm still kind of curious as to who did the initial player ratings. I know its a work in progress of course...it's just kind of funny to see good players become superstars and superstars become very, very average.

:)

I've re-done almost all NHL teams at this point and have gotten it pretty realistic. I had to tone down the Rangers the most...I'd like whatever that guy was smoking haha!

Any specific ratings that bothered you? It's much more useful to the folks working on the ratings if you mention specifics, not just generalities. Otherwise it's hard to evaluate your comments and discern what changes are actually needed.

silvam14 03-19-2013 08:23 AM

some minor things

Anaheim ducks Bryan Allen is #55 not #5

Bruins' Milan Lucic' nickname is not "Luch" it should be "Looch"

Finnish Leaf 03-20-2013 03:14 AM

In my game when i call up emergency player and my injured player comes back to roster. Game says that called guy sent back down but he is still with my NHL roster. Hopefully you understand what i'll try to say. :o

Michael Farkas 03-20-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukasberger (Post 3464642)
Any specific ratings that bothered you? It's much more useful to the folks working on the ratings if you mention specifics, not just generalities. Otherwise it's hard to evaluate your comments and discern what changes are actually needed.

Right. That and the fact that individual ratings haven't been set yet, as has been mentioned numerous times. Just a very rough framework was put in place to test the game.

shaken_bacon 03-22-2013 03:45 AM

Leafs players with wrong numbers:

Mark Fraser is number 45 and not 2. (Also hope he gets a major ratings overhaul considering most of the season he has been the top +/- guy in the league.)

Holzer is 55 and not 5.

Kostka is 53 and not 28.

Maclaren is 38 and not 10.

Maclement is 11 and not 16.

Also curious if nicknames will actually be implemented for current NHL players or not. Wouldn't mind seeing Phil "The Thrill" Kessel or Jake "Silverstick" Gardiner. I'm guessing it will be reserved for only very common nicknames like Ovie, but I wouldn't mind seeing the nicknames make it in for all sorts of players.

mgom27 03-22-2013 07:16 AM

Maybe you could rename them with their Nickname in their name.

Michael Farkas 03-22-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaken_bacon (Post 3466367)
Leafs players with wrong numbers:

Mark Fraser is number 45 and not 2. (Also hope he gets a major ratings overhaul considering most of the season he has been the top +/- guy in the league.)

Holzer is 55 and not 5.

Kostka is 53 and not 28.

Maclaren is 38 and not 10.

Maclement is 11 and not 16.

Also curious if nicknames will actually be implemented for current NHL players or not. Wouldn't mind seeing Phil "The Thrill" Kessel or Jake "Silverstick" Gardiner. I'm guessing it will be reserved for only very common nicknames like Ovie, but I wouldn't mind seeing the nicknames make it in for all sorts of players.

I have no plans to put in "generic" nicknames like "Ovy" or "Kovy" or "Duper" or any of that stuff...I'm more apt to apply them to real nicknames...

"The Chicoutimi Cucumber"
"Old Poison"
"The Hammer"
"Battleship"

etc.

Personally, I don't want to pollute the game with "Looch" for Milan Lucic, not really a productive use of time, in my opinion. I'd hate to see that every time I open a player's profile.

Hopefully, it will be an editable option for the user to decide if they want to refer to Kovalev or Kovalchuk as "Kovy" from here on out...

shaken_bacon 03-22-2013 02:47 PM

I'm just trying to understand what makes a nickname like "The Hammer" more real or less generic than "Pickles." (Vlasic in San Jose.) Or "The Bulin Wall." for Khabibulin. Or "The Thrill" for Phil Kessel. Sure they are more interesting then some names like Ovie, or Steener. (Heck, most hockey nicknames and in ER or a Y ( or IE).)

I am just am trying to clarify this. I know it won't really be a big deal at the end of the day because we can always edit the players ourselves, but I think it would be cool for that guy playing against San Jose who sees Vlasic called Pickles. They would learn something new. :) Not to mention it would be a pain for people to edit all the players around the league as I don't know virtually anything about Columbus players and what nicknames they have.

Michael Farkas 03-22-2013 03:39 PM

Pickles is interesting. Ovy is not.

My dividing line is there. There's no point in filling in "Gabby" for Gaborik, is my point. The creative ones that are universally recognized will certainly be given strong consideration.

Obviously, nicknames are the very least of my concerns :laugh:

Vikke 03-22-2013 03:44 PM

I just wish we get the option to turn nicknames off. I want no part of them in my game. :)

Twiztid78 03-22-2013 06:37 PM

Couple of guys got their position wrong. Don't want to start anything because it's a minor thing but i'm just saying.

Michael Farkas 03-22-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiztid78 (Post 3466631)
Couple of guys got their position wrong. Don't want to start anything because it's a minor thing but i'm just saying.

Feel free to post position corrections, or even number corrections. Factual things get logged and changed in fairly short order.

It's the individual ratings we won't need to start nitpicking until much later. :laugh:

Twiztid78 03-22-2013 07:21 PM

I'll take a long at every NHL team today and tomorrow and post on here what i think it's wrong. Just to make sure, the position are based on last year stats or this year?

Michael Farkas 03-22-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiztid78 (Post 3466671)
I'll take a long at every NHL team today and tomorrow and post on here what i think it's wrong. Just to make sure, the position are based on last year stats or this year?

I believe the data that was originally imported was from last year. I've made some corrections (as I've seen them) but I couldn't have possibly gotten everything. You don't have to do any great sweep check, it'll all come out in the wash anyhow, but if there's some things that stick out, feel free to post...

MXD 03-22-2013 11:08 PM

Some nicknames are truly awesome though.

I mean....

Frank "Seldom" Beaton?!?!? Pure gold.

Not sure if a random nickname generator would be a good idea, though, mainly due to the infinite possiblities. And an option to "give" a nickname? Could be either really cool or really pointless, and possibly both.

Musk 03-23-2013 11:59 AM

Below are some positional and number changes that should be applied to the NJ Devils roster.

Postions

Adam Larsson - 20 RD and 14 LD
Marek Zidlicky - 20 RD and 14 LD
Anton Volchenkov - 20 LD and 18 RD
Ilya Kovalchuk - 20 RW and 19 LW
Dainius Zubrus - 20 LW and 19 C
Andrei Loktionov - 20 C and 16 RW

Numbers

Harrold - 10
Barch - 22
Bernier - 18
Loktionov - 21 (Tedenby should be in AHL)

Twiztid78 03-23-2013 12:38 PM

Postions:

Bergeron - 20 C and 15 RW



Numbers

Khudobin - 35
Johnson - 45

thebusbybriddon 03-25-2013 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikke (Post 3466574)
I just wish we get the option to turn nicknames off. I want no part of them in my game. :)

I agree can I get rid of Chara's? I'm a hockey manager wanting to do some serious negotiations not something say 'Big Z' Everytime I wanna look at him...

thebusbybriddon 03-25-2013 01:32 PM

Also is it just me or is their no Tim Thomas?

Michael Farkas 03-25-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebusbybriddon (Post 3468131)
Also is it just me or is their no Tim Thomas?

He quit on his team. I think we're considering him retired for now, we'll work out the details of situation before the final release when it becomes more apparent I think. Though Jeff has last say on things, I doubt he views it as a high priority right now. I don't believe suspensions of this type are in the game yet. That's a minor, minor detail, of course.

Twiztid78 03-25-2013 09:26 PM

Yes Tim Thomas is a minor detail since he took the year off but it's still a major thing in the financial details of the game because is cap hit still exist against the NYI

mgom27 03-26-2013 07:19 AM

So isn't Retired Players in the 2012/13 League File and also could take 2012/13 file and make it into Historical Leagues by doing each Years League and Minor Leagues could be their.

thebusbybriddon 03-27-2013 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiztid78 (Post 3468427)
Yes Tim Thomas is a minor detail since he took the year off but it's still a major thing in the financial details of the game because is cap hit still exist against the NYI

Maybe I should of said this aswell...

shaken_bacon 03-27-2013 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiztid78 (Post 3468427)
Yes Tim Thomas is a minor detail since he took the year off but it's still a major thing in the financial details of the game because is cap hit still exist against the NYI

Have to remember this season isn't really a concern. Next season is the season FHM boys are worrying about. So they have plenty of time to figure out what will happen. In the meantime lets speculate like the rest of the hockey world over the mystery of Tim Thomas.

yzerwing 04-02-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikke (Post 3466574)
I just wish we get the option to turn nicknames off. I want no part of them in my game. :)

I really dislike having to edit the names that have them, so I don't have to see them. In real life, nicknames are cool and all, but in game, I just want to see their real names. In the historical mode it is especially annoying as almost every player seems to have them.


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