Player unwilling to negotiate
I have a player who is about to hit free agency after this season. For each of the last 3 seasons he has been unwilling to even open negotiations for an extension. He is my best player and I'm worried I'll be unable to re-sign him because he won't even let me make one offer. I've been saved by arbitration the last few years. This feels like a bug to me. Any way around this?
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Maybe go into commissioner mode? Should be able to force him to sign then, I would think.
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Anyway, it seems that for whatever reason, this player wants to play somewhere else. Sounds like a feature, not a bug. Fire a qualifying offer his way, let the door hit him on his ass, enjoy your free draft pick and sign someone else actually wanting to play for your ballclub instead. |
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Otherwise, you can check in the editor to see if the results under "Player Agent" is listed as "Scott Boras". If so, you might be out of luck. |
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"Sorry, but I will not negotiate with you any further. We seem to be too far apart." BTW, this is OOTP 15. |
Sounds like he just does not want to play for your team any longer. There are players for whatever reason want to leave no matter what you offer.
You could trade him and try and get a haul of prospects back and hope that one or two of them develop into stars, or if you are in the playoff picture, hang onto him and hope you win the championship. Or you could "cheat" and go into the editor and just add a contract extension for whatever you want. |
Maybe he just wants to get to free agency to get as much $$ as possible or as some have said above he doesn't want to play for your team for some reason. Not likely a bug, happens in real life and part of the process of running a baseball team.
You can let him play out the contract and try to sign him as a FA. You could try to trade him to get some return for him. Or you could 'cheat' and go into commissioner mode and sign him, it is your game after all and you can play how you want. |
This is definitely a feature rather than a bug. Perhaps you will someday encounter the opposite frustrating reality: the declining veteran who is ready and willing to extend his contract and doesn't want a lot of money but who no longer performs well enough to justify even the pay he demands. The catch is that he is "extremely popular" locally, and the fans will react very badly to his departure. Would you rather lose attendance or lose a roster slot? I'm now facing that dilemma in one of my leagues.
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I understand the concept of a player wanting to test FA this way in real life. I've never seen it in the game though.
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I've had a couple of No. 1 starters refuse to negotiate with me (in 17) because they don't like my manager. I just let them go and got the compensatory draft picks.
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Face it. Detroit is a craphole.:p |
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It'll happen for a few reasons. Check his morale. If it's really low ( :rant: ) then I'd trade the guy since you're not gonna be able to sign him.
If you tried negotiating with him before, and gave him a low-ball offer, you will get the "Sorry, but I will not negotiate any further with you" message. There is however a likelihood of the player re-opening negotiations with you once the season ends, possibly even before then. Again, that's assuming his morale isn't low. |
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Then again, you say it's OOTP 15, so whatever bug that is might well already be fixed in the current version. |
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This could be an issue if the player is not unhappy in any way.
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1. Trade him for a low number of high quality prospects
2. Trade to get him back with a high number of low quality prospects |
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I had similar experience - except that he would only renew one year at a time, each time increasing the $ he wanted.
This all changed quite suddenly after he had a 10-month injury. Then the only contract he would accept was 10-year and stupid high money. $39M per year kind of stupid high. I took it as a feature - one I didn't like since he was a great player, but still a feature of the game. |
He hit free agency and I'm getting the same message. He refuses to talk further, even though we haven't talked yet.
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I think there may be a bug here. This does happen, but eh fact the player was never unhappy about anything is a direct problem it seems.
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I see this all the time in arbitration years. They rarely will want more than 1 year contracts. When they are in their last arbitration year then they are willing to sign long term deals. The bad thing is its usually over inflated price so I let them go FA then re-sign them and more often than not cheaper :)
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DO NOT negotiate more than twice in one game day. Or he will refuse to talk with you.
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Again, I have not negotiated with him in years.
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yeah, this is intended behaviour. it's not a bug. i'm sure it's related to greed or selfishness or some combination of personality traits. those are the ones that "want" to test free agency like some/many players do in real life.
read ronster's 2 posts above, that's all the information you need. |
Sure he can test free agency. But once he is a free agent why wouldn't he be willing to listen to an offer from me?
I think if you were in my shoes you would feel like something was wrong under the hood. This is the first time I've encountered something like this in hundreds of OOTP seasons. This isn't the typical "I'm not ready to talk yet" response. This is the response you get from someone who is frustrated from negotiations gone bad. How is that possible when we haven't even talked? |
Has anyone run into this in OOTP16 or OOTP17?
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It's unfortunate you're still on v15 we have no way to tell if your player would negotiate in v16 v17. |
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I ran a test and he signed for 4/100. I would have easily given him more than that given the opportunity. |
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