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tem316 06-08-2019 06:46 PM

4 Days since MLB Draft
 
It is now four days since the MLB Draft and I am wondering when will you update the MLB Draft Pool to at least add ALL the players that were actually drafted to match the expected draft pool.


I am a proud native of WV and WVU had eight players drafted, and you do not have all of them in the draft pool. My Alma Mater Concord University had a player drafted for only the third time since the draft was instituted, and he is nowhere to be found.


Please consider at least adding ALL the players that were drafted to the prospective MLB Draft Pool.

mgom27 06-08-2019 07:38 PM

Also fixing Live Start Updated Rosters/Injures because not doing the updates because Molina not on DL,Bruce not on Phillies.

Mariner and Giants Fan 06-08-2019 08:25 PM

Live Start bugged?
 
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Originally Posted by mgom27 (Post 4499093)
Also fixing Live Start Updated Rosters/Injures because not doing the updates because Molina not on DL,Bruce not on Phillies.

This is most concerning as I wanted to use Live Start but only if it kept accurate rosters, injuries and updated draft pool...otherwise why even have it as a new feature?

Bunktown Ballers 06-09-2019 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tem316 (Post 4499080)
It is now four days since the MLB Draft and I am wondering when will you update the MLB Draft Pool to at least add ALL the players that were actually drafted to match the expected draft pool.


I am a proud native of WV and WVU had eight players drafted, and you do not have all of them in the draft pool. My Alma Mater Concord University had a player drafted for only the third time since the draft was instituted, and he is nowhere to be found.


Please consider at least adding ALL the players that were drafted to the prospective MLB Draft Pool.


Lots of work needed to put all players in. And if previous years any indiction it'll probbaly be about 30-40% of all the players. Not all ppl drafted are actually players. 1 team drafted a high school girl. Other nephews, cousins, friends...

Bunktown Ballers 06-09-2019 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariner and Giants Fan (Post 4499109)
This is most concerning as I wanted to use Live Start but only if it kept accurate rosters, injuries and updated draft pool...otherwise why even have it as a new feature?

I never knew it was supposed to put players on right teams

Calvert98 06-09-2019 11:35 PM

It does seem like a ton of work and research to get the current year's draft class even close to being correct in that short amount of time.

For me, if the first 4 rounds or so are about 80% accurate (or say the top 20% of the class is roughly 70% to 80% accurate), that is worth waiting-for, before I start my new modern MLB universe.

UltimateAverageGuy 06-10-2019 12:46 AM

lol, Good Lord

Calvert98 06-10-2019 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by UltimateAverageGuy (Post 4499659)
lol, Good Lord

Yea, for me, it seems like a lot of work in a short amount of time. The OOTP team is not that large.

And at second glance, those first few rounds %s that I mentioned seem like a real bear as well.

For me, if the Draft class is improved significantly, however defined, in the 6/17 patch, it might be worth the wait. If not, no big deal, I'll go ahead and start the game. Sort of more curious to some extent (and I can't wait to start my game too!).

Westheim 06-10-2019 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Calvert98 (Post 4499636)
It does seem like a ton of work and research to get the current year's draft class even close to being correct in that short amount of time.

Never mind it being a long weekend, today being also a holiday in Germany...

redmoss2 06-10-2019 06:04 AM

Parents: Teach your kids the value of saying things like "please", "thank you", "very much appreciated"

low 06-10-2019 08:34 AM

"Patience, young grasshopper".

mgom27 06-10-2019 09:18 AM

In Live start doesn't need it but it could have the Roster Team do a League like with Today's date do a Draft with guys who haven't signed yet and manually Draft for Teams.
Also noticed Live Start Rosters with today's date are updated before Draft but been moves since then that don't show up minus other problems to like Pitching Staff

Mariner and Giants Fan 06-10-2019 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunktown Ballers (Post 4499629)
I never knew it was supposed to put players on right teams

This what I found in their manual:
Live Start
Standard games can be started using the Live Start option, with updated standings, stats, ratings, and rosters as of the current real world date. This allows you to begin a game in an up-to-date simulation of the real world, playing whatever portion of the season remains.


So doesn't that mean "updated rosters" as of the date you run the Live Start?

BIG17EASY 06-10-2019 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mariner and Giants Fan (Post 4499875)
This what I found in their manual:
Live Start
Standard games can be started using the Live Start option, with updated standings, stats, ratings, and rosters as of the current real world date. This allows you to begin a game in an up-to-date simulation of the real world, playing whatever portion of the season remains.


So doesn't that mean "updated rosters" as of the date you run the Live Start?

That's how I would interpret it.

Honestly, knowing the resources of the OOTP team, I think they bit off way more than can chew with the Live Start option. I may be speaking out of turn by saying that -- and my apologies to Markus, et al, if I am -- but it would take a large team of dedicated employees just to accomplish this, let alone all the other work that needs to be done to provide patches and work on other areas of the game.

Mariner and Giants Fan 06-10-2019 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by redmoss2 (Post 4499711)
Parents: Teach your kids the value of saying things like "please", "thank you", "very much appreciated"

Not to be obtuse but what in the world does that have to do with the questions we are posing? If you are trying to be funny well you failed and if you are trying to act condescending well in that you succeeded.

qcbandits 06-10-2019 12:37 PM

Live start has its issues... There is no way according to Matt Arnold to track the minor league transactions. Major league transactions should be updating. But you will find stragglers on minor league deals that have been released and possibly already signed with an organization again still on their previous team.

As far as the draft goes... I asked the same question to someone very involved in the creation of new players and was told they are roughly at 70 % of all draftees being in the database. That'd pretty good considering that the draft was just last week

Matt Arnold 06-10-2019 01:38 PM

For some of this, we're at the mercy of our data provider. So that's why we cannot process minor league transactions automatically - we simply don't get that data.

Some of the other data as well we don't get 100% accurate. We do get an injury report, but we have to interpret that data, so it won't always match 100%.

But yeah, we try to have everything accurate if you use the simple live start option. If you want more control, you can start games through the "New Custom Game" menu, and if you select MLB in there, you have more options available to you in the live start if you want, for example, current standings but not current rosters.

TheBrewCrew 06-10-2019 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold (Post 4499949)
For some of this, we're at the mercy of our data provider. So that's why we cannot process minor league transactions automatically - we simply don't get that data.

Some of the other data as well we don't get 100% accurate. We do get an injury report, but we have to interpret that data, so it won't always match 100%.

But yeah, we try to have everything accurate if you use the simple live start option. If you want more control, you can start games through the "New Custom Game" menu, and if you select MLB in there, you have more options available to you in the live start if you want, for example, current standings but not current rosters.


Hey Matt, quick question for you. If I were to begin a live start today, is there a way to somehow do the draft / place players on teams? Any help is greatly appreciated!

edit - Realized you can just reschedule the draft. Probably best way, eh?

Matt Arnold 06-11-2019 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBrewCrew (Post 4500164)
Hey Matt, quick question for you. If I were to begin a live start today, is there a way to somehow do the draft / place players on teams? Any help is greatly appreciated!

edit - Realized you can just reschedule the draft. Probably best way, eh?

If you run it right now, some players will end up on the teams that drafted them (generally speaking, players who have signed). In the patch next week hopefully we'll have a way to handle the draft picks fully, but still working through it.

qcbandits 06-11-2019 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold (Post 4500184)
If you run it right now, some players will end up on the teams that drafted them (generally speaking, players who have signed). In the patch next week hopefully we'll have a way to handle the draft picks fully, but still working through it.

this is one of the reasons I don't like having the game automatically signing rounds 6+ because in reality a lot of the guys won't sign and if there is some way to force the draft picks in now... it will screw up there. So, I guess i am suggesting waiting til after the DP signing deadline before I'd be too worried about figuring how to handle the draft picks

mgom27 06-11-2019 07:20 AM

It shouldn't be hard to sign all guys to a contract or on the rights to a Drafted guy.

Bunktown Ballers 06-11-2019 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Calvert98 (Post 4499679)
Yea, for me, it seems like a lot of work in a short amount of time. The OOTP team is not that large.

And at second glance, those first few rounds %s that I mentioned seem like a real bear as well.

For me, if the Draft class is improved significantly, however defined, in the 6/17 patch, it might be worth the wait. If not, no big deal, I'll go ahead and start the game. Sort of more curious to some extent (and I can't wait to start my game too!).


Oh I have a previous league going on, but I play OOTP 12 months of the year. I play out every game. When the draft file is uploaded I do my best to have at least 25 rounds with every play for each team. I create players needed. It's just somethine I love to do. I'm burned out on PT & can't wait for draft files. What I do is draft for every team with players drafted in correct round as best as I can. I'm dunable to work so I stay home 24-7 with too much time on my hands. LOL

Calvert98 06-11-2019 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunktown Ballers (Post 4500255)
Oh I have a previous league going on, but I play OOTP 12 months of the year. I play out every game. When the draft file is uploaded I do my best to have at least 25 rounds with every play for each team. I create players needed. It's just somethine I love to do. I'm burned out on PT & can't wait for draft files. What I do is draft for every team with players drafted in correct round as best as I can. I'm dunable to work so I stay home 24-7 with too much time on my hands. LOL

Wow. Yea, I sort of play in long-periods when I can; I play-out all of my games too, so the seasons can take a while.

I actually started two previous MLB Starts with my team following the 2nd patch, but cut them short in the first part of the first season, partly because I messed up the games while playing into the long hours, and partly due to the frustration that resulted.

However, gosh, I'm all-in this time, come rain, snow or what-have-you! As a result, I have decided to wait for the 6/17 patch. And I will likely stick with this MLB Start, till this winter or OOTP 21; perhaps longer. But now, waiting for the 6/17 patch, it's almost like waiting for a cool parcel to be delivered. Really can't wait.

Lukas Berger 06-11-2019 10:05 AM

It'll be at least a few weeks before all the players are even in the db, even once we figure out how to get them onto the right teams in the Live start.

As of this moment I believe we have something like 875 of the 1217 drafted players in our db and everyone taken in rounds 1-11 is in.

So patience is a virtue in this case, we'll get any missing players from the draft added as soon as possible, but it doesn't happen just by snapping our fingers, a lot of time and research has to go into getting their data right and getting them rated correctly (or at least not too wildly far off).

nutt 06-11-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger (Post 4500273)
It'll be at least a few weeks before all the players are even in the db, even once we figure out how to get them onto the right teams in the Live start.

As of this moment I believe we have something like 875 of the 1217 drafted players in our db and everyone taken in rounds 1-11 is in.

So patience is a virtue in this case, we'll get any missing players from the draft added as soon as possible, but it doesn't happen just by snapping our fingers, a lot of time and research has to go into getting their data right and getting them rated correctly (or at least not too wildly far off).

On top of this, adding in college stats for the drafted players for say, maybe 600+ players or so JUST for the 2019 draft takes time and investment (school page, roster, stats).

andyhdz 06-11-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariner and Giants Fan (Post 4499889)
Not to be obtuse but what in the world does that have to do with the questions we are posing? If you are trying to be funny well you failed and if you are trying to act condescending well in that you succeeded.



Nope it was funny as hell. A whole smacking 4 days. The horror.

Mariner and Giants Fan 06-11-2019 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by andyhdz (Post 4500494)
Nope it was funny as hell. A whole smacking 4 days. The horror.

Yeah if you are like 5 or 6 sure. So are you?:p

qcbandits 06-12-2019 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mariner and Giants Fan (Post 4500504)
Yeah if you are like 5 or 6 sure. So are you?:p

The one we should find out if he is 5 or 6 is the original poster... I mean come on... like OMG he's had to wait a whole 4 days already and it's still not complete. LOL what an entitled society we live in

Mariner and Giants Fan 06-12-2019 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by qcbandits (Post 4500587)
The one we should find out if he is 5 or 6 is the original poster... I mean come on... like OMG he's had to wait a whole 4 days already and it's still not complete. LOL what an entitled society we live in

Cannot disagree with you there. Still love this game and I am not really concerned about the drafted players being on the correct rosters as I am about injuries and trades being reflected in Live Updates.

nutt 06-12-2019 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mariner and Giants Fan (Post 4500591)
Cannot disagree with you there. Still love this game and I am not really concerned about the drafted players being on the correct rosters as I am about injuries and trades being reflected in Live Updates.

On the LIVE side, give it some time. That's a lot to add manually to the database.


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