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daves 11-28-2019 12:11 AM

Who are the top 3 starters in PT?
 
If the playoff game was on the line, who is your top 3 PT2.0 choices?

Does not necessarily need to be on your current team. This is all starters in the PT universe.

Pine Tar 11-28-2019 12:18 AM

For a gold 86
David Price - live The ace on my team by far.

Pine Tar

Lemandria 11-28-2019 02:51 AM

If the playoff is a tournament, null. Depends on the opposing team, because tourney parks are neutral.

If we're on the road, null. (no choice is possible without knowing which ballpark, and they vary wildly).

If we're at home...Dizzy Dean has the highest historical WinP on the Penguins, but pretty much the entire staff is toast in Perfect so the question just might be moot.

Pardon me, this RRF3 tournament is going down to the wire, all tied up going into the deciding game.

We lost to Jim bleeping Merrit? [eyeroll]

mcdog512 11-28-2019 07:39 AM

The new 100 Pedro, 100 Walter Johnson and I guess 100 Cy Young.

Orcin 11-28-2019 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mcdog512 (Post 4565148)
The new 100 Pedro, 100 Walter Johnson and I guess 100 Cy Young.

We have a winner!

dkgo 11-28-2019 09:52 AM

I recently fell victim to the spreadsheet and bought "perfect" greg maddux to replace 99 walter, he has been a massive disappointment. era two runs higher than every other starter last season and this. price has dropped like 50k in the meantime too, gonna replace him with ruffing once i finish the yankees mission

Sipimi 11-28-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dkgo (Post 4565168)
I recently fell victim to the spreadsheet and bought "perfect" greg maddux to replace 99 walter, he has been a massive disappointment. era two runs higher than every other starter last season and this. price has dropped like 50k in the meantime too, gonna replace him with ruffing once i finish the yankees mission

Usually those Maddux need better defense in order to be really effective, something not necessarily reflected in those spreadsheets.

webdox 11-28-2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo (Post 4565168)
I recently fell victim to the spreadsheet and bought "perfect" greg maddux to replace 99 walter, he has been a massive disappointment. era two runs higher than every other starter last season and this. price has dropped like 50k in the meantime too, gonna replace him with ruffing once i finish the yankees mission

Same. I have been very disappointed with his performance but it's the first season. I did a long search in my 3 perfect leagues and saw that others fared quite well with him. Hoping he will turn the corner before being relegated to the ever increasing cost bullpen...

dkgo 11-28-2019 12:23 PM

Ive got 100 infield defense too except for 1b. Oh well juat gonna take the loss. Although some players definitely seem to take time to "gel" before producing regardless of what the official stance is.

Sipimi 11-28-2019 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo (Post 4565210)
Ive got 100 infield defense too except for 1b. Oh well juat gonna take the loss. Although some players definitely seem to take time to "gel" before producing regardless of what the official stance is.

1- Have you looked at BABIP ?
2- Are your park factors geared towards offense ?

X3NEIZE 11-28-2019 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo (Post 4565210)
Ive got 100 infield defense too except for 1b. Oh well juat gonna take the loss. Although some players definitely seem to take time to "gel" before producing regardless of what the official stance is.

If you want to have success with these GB pitchers, i suggest you not only have a grade defensive IF but your ball park factors are lower than average.

daves 11-28-2019 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mcdog512 (Post 4565148)
The new 100 Pedro, 100 Walter Johnson and I guess 100 Cy Young.



Thanks. I am 0 for 3. [emoji31] 100 Maddox, 100 Clemens and 100 Peak Randy Johnson.

Hopefully competitive enough?


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mcdog512 11-28-2019 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by daves (Post 4565259)
Thanks. I am 0 for 3. [emoji31] 100 Maddox, 100 Clemens and 100 Peak Randy Johnson.

Hopefully competitive enough?


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That's not exactly terrible. I have Clemens in my rotation and have looked at Maddux 99, not sure on 100's numbers.

mcdog512 11-28-2019 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by X3NEIZE (Post 4565222)
If you want to have success with these GB pitchers, i suggest you not only have a grade defensive IF but your ball park factors are lower than average.


What's the thought process there? Keep singles down? I assume power is fine since I've never seen a grounder go over the fence.

Sipimi 11-28-2019 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mcdog512 (Post 4565272)
What's the thought process there? Keep singles down? I assume power is fine since I've never seen a grounder go over the fence.

I don't know about his thought process but mine is: the lower the stuff the more balls are put in play, so more chance for hits or luck to play a role (babip). Lowering the park factors lower the # of potential hits, thus helping Maddux keep his opponent batting average under control.

One Great Matrix 11-28-2019 06:23 PM

Cy Young 100, Perfect Pedro either, and Walter Johnson, possibly either, are 3 pretty good ones...

Seaver is definitely the best starter I have & Cy Young 100 has given me the most trouble in many playoff series now that I've lost. Only 2 possibly because of him.

Ty Cobb 11-29-2019 10:27 AM

Ditched my Seaver
 
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Originally Posted by One Great Matrix (Post 4565279)
Cy Young 100, Perfect Pedro either, and Walter Johnson, possibly either, are 3 pretty good ones...

Seaver is definitely the best starter I have & Cy Young 100 has given me the most trouble in many playoff series now that I've lost. Only 2 possibly because of him.

and Dutch Leonard 100 is a gem!

X3NEIZE 11-29-2019 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sipimi (Post 4565277)
I don't know about his thought process but mine is: the lower the stuff the more balls are put in play, so more chance for hits or luck to play a role (babip). Lowering the park factors lower the # of potential hits, thus helping Maddux keep his opponent batting average under control.

What he said, but also adding that Extreme GB pitchers will also look to do just that, hence making the defenders work and if the ball park factors are high, the defense is somewhat negated.

Lemandria 11-30-2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pine Tar (Post 4565104)
For a gold 86
David Price - live The ace on my team by far.

Pine Tar

Far from my Ace for any team, but I did get a perfect game out of a David Price yesterday.

One Great Matrix 11-30-2019 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty Cobb (Post 4565418)
and Dutch Leonard 100 is a gem!

Yeah, Cy, Walter, Pedro & Maddux are pretty good. Then there's an additional group of like maybe 15+ that are 100+ if there was such a thing. And some 100s (esp. lives) that aren't any better than many diamonds.


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