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geisterhome 07-05-2019 09:59 AM

Shop player around- too good offers??
 
I'm on trade difficulty hard and trade preference neutral. Just before the trade deadline year 1 trying to sell off guys on expiring contracts or which don't fit my plans etc.

For example for Travis d`arnaud, I could get a young closer, 4,5-star potential, less than 1 year service time of the last places White Sox.

For few months of 33 year old Todd Frazier, got I 4 star Alex Colome for at least 1,5 years also thanks to the noncontending White Sox. For Jeurys Familia and AAA SP Mickey Jannis, I got Alex Reyes 3,5 Star potential SP and Dakota Hudson, 3,5 Star RP/SP.

I remember last few years it used to be very difficult to get anything for such guys, they had little to no trade value, now I can get significant pieces for those guys. I really don't see what Frazier and dŽArnaud would do for a few months until their contracts expire for a rebuilding team.

What do you guys think? Maybe I could move trade preference to favour prospects but I feel it should be that easy even on neutral.

Tram2Whitaker 07-05-2019 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geisterhome (Post 4511480)
I'm on trade difficulty hard and trade preference neutral. Just before the trade deadline year 1 trying to sell off guys on expiring contracts or which don't fit my plans etc.

For example for Travis d`arnaud, I could get a young closer, 4,5-star potential, less than 1 year service time of the last places White Sox.

For few months of 33 year old Todd Frazier, got I 4 star Alex Colome for at least 1,5 years also thanks to the noncontending White Sox. For Jeurys Familia and AAA SP Mickey Jannis, I got Alex Reyes 3,5 Star potential SP and Dakota Hudson, 3,5 Star RP/SP.

I remember last few years it used to be very difficult to get anything for such guys, they had little to no trade value, now I can get significant pieces for those guys. I really don't see what Frazier and dŽArnaud would do for a few months until their contracts expire for a rebuilding team.

What do you guys think? Maybe I could move trade preference to favour prospects but I feel it should be that easy even on neutral.

Could it be that your scout is over- valuing these guys?

Gruber_Tagged_Him 07-05-2019 04:13 PM

Just my observation: At the trade deadline, and during the pre-season, you can get a fantastic return using "Shop around" compared to any other time in the year.

I have a personal rule ("Don't abuse the AI") about this exact issue.

(This personal opinion based on a few years of OOTP at relatively low levels of activity until this summer, is subject to statistical demolition...)

discodude5 07-06-2019 12:28 AM

I do find some offers to be too good, 4* guys for my 1 1/2*.
I ignore those and take some time to go through ones that are kinda close with a general house rule with exceptions to only trade for a guy 1* higher. Then I put myself in their shoes looking at how my player fits,why their player is available and if it doesn't make sense I don't trade.

geisterhome 07-06-2019 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tram2Whitaker (Post 4511568)
Could it be that your scout is over- valuing these guys?

OOTP scouting is high on them too, also I got a new scouting director just the other day and he values them very similarly. Anyways for a last placed rebuilding team, an aging veteran on an expiring (expensive) contract shouldn't have any value, I even get them to take on the 500000k salary for the players they are offering me... something seems off there really.

l.

geisterhome 07-18-2019 05:34 AM

I have been playing way more now and I'm still thinking offers are too good AND from teams that shouldn't be in for certain players, e.g. veterans last year of contract kind of guys. still all teams offer smth, also rebuilding ones offer their best prospects for a good vet. that is the main issue imo. shop player ignores if teams are rebuilding or win now mode, etc.

I guess i could apply house rules but I suck at it lol. Also since the game identifies rebuilding teams already can it be so difficult to get this into the trade logic.

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