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mjerome 09-28-2018 01:22 PM

Expansion question
 
I've bought every version so far. I think I've asked this every year since FHM2 with disappointing answers each time. (Couldn't find anyone asking this already, sorry if duplicate.)

After what Vegas did this past year, I have to ask again.

Can expansion teams participate in an entry draft prior to their first season?

Thank you.

Sebastian Palkowski 09-28-2018 05:02 PM

No. We can´t add a team before July 1st to the DB, it would break the game as it is now. To make this happen we have to rewrite a lot of code and right now that is not a major priority. Sorry.

Mancandy 09-28-2018 05:07 PM

I’m wondering the same thing. At this point, this will likely determine if I buy the game or not. I bought FHM3 not knowing you couldn’t realistically play an expansion team, I bought FHM4 assuming it would be fixed...not getting my money this time if expansion teams are still unplayable.

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski (Post 4370527)
No. We can´t add a team before July 1st to the DB, it would break the game as it is now. To make this happen we have to rewrite a lot of code and right now that is not a major priority. Sorry.

Can’t you give users the option to move the entry draft until after July 1? My understanding is that’s how it’s handled with historical expansions.

Sebastian Palkowski 09-28-2018 05:19 PM

It is not that easy.

I would not call expansion mode unplayable, it effects you only in the first season and just makes it a bit harder to play with an expansion team.

thompsw8 09-28-2018 05:48 PM

Couldn't you just sim the first season and start the expansion process during the first season and it starts the 2nd season?

mgom27 09-28-2018 06:48 PM

You should be able to do Expansion Draft any date from start of Offseason to Preseason even in year one.

mjerome 09-29-2018 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski (Post 4370527)
No. We can´t add a team before July 1st to the DB, it would break the game as it is now.

IMO, with your design decision the game's already broken. I don't want to be misunderstood. This isn't a feature I'm asking for, but a fix for a current mistake. One of the most exciting hockey events ever was when Vegas went to the finals in their first year. And your product makes it next to impossible to duplicate with any new expansion team. In FHM, Vegas would have missed out on drafting Cody Glass and Nick Suzuki, and all the various trades they made to stockpile picks and assets in 2017 to put them in to position to obtain stars like Max Pacioretty. If I put a new expansion team in my league now, I could do none of this.

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski (Post 4370527)
To make this happen we have to rewrite a lot of code and right now that is not a major priority. Sorry.

Vegas had three 1st round picks in 2017. Very knowledgeable people made their first draft a priority in a real world setting. You should have made it a priority as well. Currently, an expansion team has to play the entire first year with zero valuable, known assets. So, to me, FHM doesn't currently sim how the most popular and competitive league in the world works in this area. And you were aware. And I understand you've done nothing to resolve in 3 years. Expansion's huge right now, and you have no inclination to fix it and get it right? I don't get it. I don't understand. You should never added expansion to FHM if you didn't have the ability to get it right, or at least not get it wrong to such a degree that the work to resolve would be (apparently) insurmountable. I know this may sound like an attack, and I need to chill out. I am sorry about that, I feel bad to speak so harshly. I'm just so upset and disappointed to have put in money supporting this design team that can't seem to get the NHL entry draft correct on their fifth attempt. :angry:

Sebastian Palkowski 09-29-2018 03:55 AM

We put in expansion draft by popular demand. Most people are happy to have it in,even if it has this small limitation. We explained you the reason for the limitation and also told you that at some point we will code the change but we have to plan our resources carefully and use them to do stuff that effects as many people as possible. So this change right now is not on top of our todo list.

bjernagris 09-29-2018 06:50 AM

Agree that it isn’t optimal to not have expansion teams draft before their first season, but it is hardly a game-breaking limitation and you could work around it manually if you wanted to, that’s what we did in the iNHL when we expanded to 32 teams.

Sabres2000 09-30-2018 09:39 PM

Question so I know if I wanna do this with my save or not.. CHl leagues can we create expansion teams or just create teams aka expand without expansion draft?

Orioles1966 09-30-2018 11:01 PM

If people want a expansion draft then do it on paper(remember those days when we used paper) and afterwards on FHM5 with the player editor move players too proper teams.

Sabres2000 10-01-2018 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1966 (Post 4371112)
If people want a expansion draft then do it on paper(remember those days when we used paper) and afterwards on FHM5 with the player editor move players too proper teams.

No what I wanna do is expand WHL and bring back chilliwsck bruins? But they didn’t say anything about expanding major juniors

Orioles1966 10-01-2018 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabres2000 (Post 4371118)
No what I wanna do is expand WHL and bring back chilliwsck bruins? But they didn’t say anything about expanding major juniors

I was referring to the post above you. Sorry.

Rayzor 10-01-2018 07:21 AM

Will FHM5 let us put an expansion team in will in Challenge mode, say I want to add Seattle in at 2020-21 season could I

Sebastian Palkowski 10-01-2018 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rayzor (Post 4371174)
Will FHM5 let us put an expansion team in will in Challenge mode, say I want to add Seattle in at 2020-21 season could I

No, Challenge mode does not have any Commish mode, just like OOTP.

Sabres2000 10-01-2018 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski (Post 4371177)
No, Challenge mode does not have any Commish mode, just like OOTP.

Sebastian... Is there a way to skip the expansion draft as I just want to pick my team out of the remaining UFAs instead of doing the expansion draft?

Adam B 10-02-2018 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabres2000 (Post 4371508)
Sebastian... Is there a way to skip the expansion draft as I just want to pick my team out of the remaining UFAs instead of doing the expansion draft?

Just add the team via League Structure.

Sabres2000 10-02-2018 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam B (Post 4371516)
Just add the team via League Structure.

:ohmy: i can do my WHL expansion yahooo

croatian 10-02-2018 05:03 AM

in historical mode (not challenges), is it possible to expand the league when you reach july 1st 2018. ?

Sabres2000 12-16-2018 12:50 PM

Question. I know you can only expand leagues come July 1st expansion in NHL however... For Major Juniors. if add a team the day after the regular season ends in middle of March will that team be added to the upcoming Junior League Draft? For example... If I add a OHL team after OHL season ends in 2018-2019 season that team will be able to draft in the 2019 draft?


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