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dsvitak 05-10-2023 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stl jason (Post 5007411)
and they haven't lost 100 games in a season since 1908... on pace for all of those at the moment.
Not gonna happen. Their run differential is just too good. A regression to the mean, and I see a positive overall run diff by the end of the month. Easily.

It took six days.

thehef 05-10-2023 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich (Post 5008002)
Younger umpires have grown up with that box that represents the strike zone on every game broadcast for their entire lives. I think that has to play a part in them having a more consistent strike zone.
Good point!

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Originally Posted by Boomcoach (Post 5008115)
Young or old, the fact that umpires have been evaluated based on that strike zone for a couple years is bound to make them focus on it a bit more.
For sure. But apparently the younger ones are performing better... And it's kind of a shame that it takes the existence of performance evaluation to be a motivator for simply doing the job right, especially when we consider that it doesn't take any more effort to call balls & strikes correctly than it does to call them based upon whims or whatever...

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Originally Posted by dsvitak (Post 5008313)
More likely that they are freaked out by the level of accountability that modern technology shows.
Which one? The umps are freaked? Or MLB is freaked by the revelation that the geezers don't perform as well as the young bucks? (I suppose it could be both.)

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Originally Posted by dsvitak (Post 5008313)
I watched CB Bucknor the other day, and he sucks balls. Worse than Angel, and that's saying something.
How are these guys keeping their gigs? Is it because of the union?

monkeyman576 05-10-2023 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dsvitak (Post 5008312)
Hartnett was the 2nd best player on the NL pennant winning Cubs. Billy Herman was hugely better.

He only had 413 at bats, but was a catcher, and had an excellent OPS of .949.

Dizzy's brother Daffy had a higher WAR than Hartnett. Amusingly.

Arky Vaughan probably deserved it...dude had a .491 OBP as a not particularly gifted SS.
ChatGPT disagrees on Vaughan

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Originally Posted by ChatGPT
Yes, Arky Vaughn was widely regarded as an exceptional defensive shortstop during his career. Vaughn played in the Major Leagues primarily in the 1930s and early 1940s, spending the majority of his career with the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Vaughn possessed excellent range, smooth fielding skills, and a strong throwing arm, which made him highly effective at his position. He was known for his ability to make difficult plays and display exceptional athleticism on the field. Vaughn's defensive prowess earned him praise from teammates, opponents, and baseball experts of his era.

While Vaughn was primarily recognized for his offensive skills, particularly his hitting and ability to get on base, his defensive contributions should not be overlooked. He consistently demonstrated his proficiency as a shortstop, making him a valuable asset to his team both offensively and defensively.

Unfortunately, the lack of comprehensive defensive statistics during Vaughn's playing career makes it challenging to quantify and compare his defensive abilities to modern shortstops using advanced metrics. However, historical accounts and contemporaneous accounts from players, coaches, and sportswriters attest to Vaughn's defensive prowess and confirm his reputation as a skilled and reliable defensive shortstop.

dsvitak 05-10-2023 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by monkeyman576 (Post 5008324)
ChatGPT disagrees on Vaughan
.951 lifetime fielding percentage, range factor per nine innings at 5.36, vs. a league average of 5.43.

397 errors, so one error every 32 innings.

Ozzie Smith, .978 fielding percentage, and one error every 78 innings.

Now..Ozzie is recognized as the best...but Vaughan, in my careful analysis, suffers from the same issue many players have. His excellent offensive stats meant that his defense got a boost, unjustifiably.

Izz 05-10-2023 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by monkeyman576 (Post 5008324)
ChatGPT disagrees on Vaughan
ChatGPT also has a habit of falsely accusing people of criminal actions...

Déjà Bru 05-10-2023 09:59 PM
Ten things that are knocking The Athletic's socks off about this MLB season so far:

1. A’s slugger Brent Rooker leading MLB in OPS

2. The last-place Yankees and Cardinals

3. O’s reliever Yennier Cano hasn’t given up a run

4. The Astros are just a .500 team

5. Willson Contreras is no longer catching

6. The White Sox’s managerial change … changes nothing

7. The starters with ERAs under 2.00 - instead of guys like Gerrit Cole, Shane McClanahan, Sandy Alcantara, Julio Urías, Justin Verlander and Corbin Burnes, the names are Sonny Gray (1.35), Justin Steele (1.45), Bryce Elder (1.74) and Eduardo Rodriguez (1.81). [And if you are a Yankees fan, that first name is going to irk you along with Joey Gallo - I swear, there should be a psychiatric examination to pass before playing in New York.]

8. The sweeper, baseball’s ‘it’ pitch, keeps sweeping through the league - "The sweeper is just a slider with frisbee type movement that comes across more with a bigger break than the late-breaking downward slider. It’s officially a thing."

9. Matt Chapman leading the AL in batting average and doubles

10. Yandy Díaz, power hitter

monkeyman576 05-10-2023 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Izz (Post 5008347)
ChatGPT also has a habit of falsely accusing people of criminal actions...
Guilty until proven innocent, as I always say.

Izz 05-12-2023 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by monkeyman576 (Post 5008424)
Guilty until proven innocent, as I always say.
:laugh::laugh:

Cobra Mgr 05-16-2023 06:26 AM
Thoughts on if Yanks were cheating.

dsvitak 05-16-2023 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dsvitak (Post 5008315)
Not gonna happen. Their run differential is just too good. A regression to the mean, and I see a positive overall run diff by the end of the month. Easily.
It took six days.

Cardinals have a better run differential now than Milwaukee.

Westheim 05-16-2023 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr (Post 5009850)
Weird for sure, doesn't explain while he's still peeking at 3-2, but then again you'd need a camera to see whether the fifth outfielder changes his Gatorade from his right hand to his left when the fastball comes.

kq76 05-16-2023 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr (Post 5009850)
It looks bad, yeah, but surely someone would have caught him doing this long ago. And when he talked about it he looked so casual that I just can't believe that he was completely lying. I'm sure he wasn't telling us the whole story, but he certainly didn't look like he was just caught cheating and trying to talk his way out of it. He looked too at ease for that to be the case.

The only thing that really makes me wonder about it is, players and personnel are chirping all the time. What was different about this time that he kept looking over? Why is he now all of a sudden so concerned about Boone getting ejected? I know Boone had some health issue awhile back. Is he extra concerned for Boone's health right now?

Déjà Bru 05-16-2023 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kq76 (Post 5009939)
What was different about this time that he kept looking over? Why is he now all of a sudden so concerned about Boone getting ejected?
Don't forget that the club named him captain this past winter. He could be taking the job seriously. The score was 6-0, guys were still chirping at the umps, and Boone was gone so perhaps he was concerned about anybody else getting run and felt the need to take charge. Besides, no one else was looking at the dugout during their at-bats; it is unlikely the Yankees would be running a sign-stealing scheme just for Judge.

Syd Thrift 05-17-2023 08:27 AM
And the other half of it, the Yankees coaches sitting outside of the coach boxes, is ridiculous. You not only can be outside of them at any time so long as you’re further away from the plate and fair territory than the box but teams who aren’t the Yankees position their coaches outside the box all the time.

Cobra Mgr 05-17-2023 10:10 AM
I personally like a bunch of pettiness and nitpicking between 2 teams. Makes the game interesting when it gets personal & there is genuine animosity between rivals.

Brad K 05-17-2023 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr (Post 5010198)
I personally like a bunch of pettiness and nitpicking between 2 teams. Makes the game interesting when it gets personal & there is genuine animosity between rivals.
I never would have guessed that you felt that way.

rudel.dietrich 05-18-2023 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dsvitak (Post 5008337)
.951 lifetime fielding percentage, range factor per nine innings at 5.36, vs. a league average of 5.43.

397 errors, so one error every 32 innings.

Ozzie Smith, .978 fielding percentage, and one error every 78 innings.

Now..Ozzie is recognized as the best...but Vaughan, in my careful analysis, suffers from the same issue many players have. His excellent offensive stats meant that his defense got a boost, unjustifiably.
Fielding % is a terrible way to rate players between eras since fielding % has steadily gone up since baseball's inception.

Players in the low minors learning a new position make fewer errors than the best fielding players in the first part of the 20th century.



Now saying all that, Vaughn grades out as a slightly above-average shortstop in the field.
He never posted a negative DWAR even when he came back from his early retirement.

And he was as you pointed out, outstanding at the plate in an era where middle infielders were still not expected to provide much offense.

It really is a shame he let his emotions get the better of him and retired for four years after a petty dispute with the management in Brooklyn.

When he came back, he was still serviceable but was a shell of what he had been.
And even more sad that he died in a boating accident at the age of 40.

Westheim 05-19-2023 02:09 AM
Entirely unrelated, who woke up the Cards?

rudel.dietrich 05-19-2023 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Westheim (Post 5010663)
Entirely unrelated, who woke up the Cards?
Their offense has been good all season. Their pitching has just been terrible. And that is not a great division. They are very much still in it even after a poor start.

dsvitak 05-19-2023 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Westheim (Post 5010663)
Entirely unrelated, who woke up the Cards?
You are a big baseball fan. They had a black hole where Arenado was. Everyone else was hitting pretty well.

Now, Arenado is smoking hot..so Noot, Goldy, Nolan Gorman (biggest surprise in MLB this year), Arenado, Contreras (TWO three run bombs last night), DeJong, Donovan, and Edman are ALL hitting.

Show me a better top to bottom lineup...with this many gold gloves. Goldy, Arenado, Donovan, Edman, and probably more that I missed.


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