Amateur draft has ONE player

bherman1 · 09-06-2024, 01:27 PM

I have created a league of all actual players to begin in a given year (1980, in this case), with the intent of playing all succeeding seasons with only actual players as they entered pro ball through the draft. (No fictional players.) I then staged a fantasy draft, chose my team to run and began playing the season with the expectation that the year's amateur draft pool would consist of all real players. Come May (I reset the draft date from the default of December to June, which is when the actual 1980 amateur draft took place), I find that the newly created amateur draft consists of ONE player.

My preseason settings were to create the draft and run 20 rounds with 27 players per round, so the settings aren’t the issue. Do you know what the issue is?

Although my league begins in 1980 and the league calendar shows 1980 throughout as I play, I have noticed that actual amateurs who were drafted in 1980 are already in the league. How can this be if we haven’t yet had a draft in 1980?

If there is no 1980 draft, I can live with that…as long as I don’t expend countless hours getting to mid-1981 only to find out there are no players in the draft pool again.

(I tried to upload a zip of the league to you, but it would not upload.)

Can you help? Thanks.

LansdowneSt · 09-06-2024, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bherman1

I have created a league of all actual players to begin in a given year (1980, in this case), with the intent of playing all succeeding seasons with only actual players as they entered pro ball through the draft. (No fictional players.) I then staged a fantasy draft, chose my team to run and began playing the season with the expectation that the year's amateur draft pool would consist of all real players. Come May (I reset the draft date from the default of December to June, which is when the actual 1980 amateur draft took place), I find that the newly created amateur draft consists of ONE player.

My preseason settings were to create the draft and run 20 rounds with 27 players per round, so the settings aren’t the issue. Do you know what the issue is?

Although my league begins in 1980 and the league calendar shows 1980 throughout as I play, I have noticed that actual amateurs who were drafted in 1980 are already in the league. How can this be if we haven’t yet had a draft in 1980?

If there is no 1980 draft, I can live with that…as long as I don’t expend countless hours getting to mid-1981 only to find out there are no players in the draft pool again.

(I tried to upload a zip of the league to you, but it would not upload.)

Can you help? Thanks.

It's discussed in a few threads in this subforum if you seek them out. It was your moving of the draft dates that caused this. Don't move the draft or the reveal date in historic games. Put both back and you should be able to proceed as you intended with the draft class for that particular year appearing.

As for the current year and the players debuting, if you assign to real teams they will come in and play in the year that they first have a minor league stat line. It may have brought them in because the draft date moved and hence it thinks it should skip that class. Just a guess on that ripple effect.

LansdowneSt · 09-06-2024, 02:44 PM

If you want to back it up, correct the draft dates, and sim a few years to see that the issue corrects, you can do that. I get not wanting to invest time and discover it doesn't correct in real time.

bherman1 · 09-06-2024, 03:27 PM

Seems to have worked after I changed the draft date to December 30 and simmed to the pool reveal date to check it out. Much obliged!!

The weird thing with this is that the "1980 draft" (by calendar date) is populated with players who were actually drafted by MLB teams in 1981. I understand that, when you start a season in a new game that it will necessarily include all guys who played that year (and therefore, guys who were drafted that year)...but it's still weird and I wish there was a way around it.

No matter...now that I understand it, I'm good to go.

Matt Arnold · 09-09-2024, 10:38 AM

An in-season draft will include players who debuted that year. So if your draft was in May 1980, that would be players who debuted in 1980.

But if you started the game in 1980, all of those players would have already been included in the initial historical setup.

Basically, if you want an in-season draft, you need to skip it the first year in a new historical game. In your case, the draft happening anytime November 1980 until September 1981 would include "1981 debuts". The game traditionally sets that in November/December so that teams can adjust their off-season. Especially in historical games without minors, players tend to enter the league more developed. If a team gets the first pick and can add an Ichiro to their lineup, that would likely change their off-season plans more than a traditional 1-1 pick from a rookie draft.

09-06-2024, 01:27 PM	#1
bherman1 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 45	Amateur draft has ONE player I have created a league of all actual players to begin in a given year (1980, in this case), with the intent of playing all succeeding seasons with only actual players as they entered pro ball through the draft. (No fictional players.) I then staged a fantasy draft, chose my team to run and began playing the season with the expectation that the year's amateur draft pool would consist of all real players. Come May (I reset the draft date from the default of December to June, which is when the actual 1980 amateur draft took place), I find that the newly created amateur draft consists of ONE player. My preseason settings were to create the draft and run 20 rounds with 27 players per round, so the settings aren’t the issue. Do you know what the issue is? Although my league begins in 1980 and the league calendar shows 1980 throughout as I play, I have noticed that actual amateurs who were drafted in 1980 are already in the league. How can this be if we haven’t yet had a draft in 1980? If there is no 1980 draft, I can live with that…as long as I don’t expend countless hours getting to mid-1981 only to find out there are no players in the draft pool again. (I tried to upload a zip of the league to you, but it would not upload.) Can you help? Thanks.

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09-06-2024, 03:27 PM	#4
bherman1 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 45	Seems to have worked after I changed the draft date to December 30 and simmed to the pool reveal date to check it out. Much obliged!! The weird thing with this is that the "1980 draft" (by calendar date) is populated with players who were actually drafted by MLB teams in 1981. I understand that, when you start a season in a new game that it will necessarily include all guys who played that year (and therefore, guys who were drafted that year)...but it's still weird and I wish there was a way around it. No matter...now that I understand it, I'm good to go.

09-09-2024, 10:38 AM	#5
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,656	An in-season draft will include players who debuted that year. So if your draft was in May 1980, that would be players who debuted in 1980. But if you started the game in 1980, all of those players would have already been included in the initial historical setup. Basically, if you want an in-season draft, you need to skip it the first year in a new historical game. In your case, the draft happening anytime November 1980 until September 1981 would include "1981 debuts". The game traditionally sets that in November/December so that teams can adjust their off-season. Especially in historical games without minors, players tend to enter the league more developed. If a team gets the first pick and can add an Ichiro to their lineup, that would likely change their off-season plans more than a traditional 1-1 pick from a rookie draft.