Current market

[Heater41]

The current market: 66 Dave Patterson 99,999,999 .... 68 Jacob Stallings 12,345,679 ... 51 Dario Agrazal 9,999,999 and so on is the exact reason I have zero interest in trying to move past gold. Even there, I always see a team or 3 with the same lineup all the diamond teams have. Market manipulation, multiple accounts and an out of control market for trying to complete FH3 missions (and others) is really hindering this game. I'm sitting with 366,233 perfect points and no way to improve the team. Nothing from a perfect pack helps and trying to buy a Randy Johnson, etc are over 500K. I feel like I am better off selling everything, dropping back to the beginning,and playing at the lower levels with golds and silvers (and/or utilizing players from my favorite team for enjoyment.) - off the soapbox I go.

[dishnet34]

In terms of those market prices for those low-overall players - that's just idiots being idiots. No reasonable person would buy at those prices and trying to sell them at those prices is a fool's errand.

I really hope there'll be changes to the auction house this coming version. It could only help.

[Heater41]

Originally Posted by dishnet34

In terms of those market prices for those low-overall players - that's just idiots being idiots. No reasonable person would buy at those prices and trying to sell them at those prices is a fool's errand.

I really hope there'll be changes to the auction house this coming version. It could only help.

Unless of course they have multiple teams under multiple email addresses and are utilzing it to swap perfect points from one account to another.

[dishnet34]

Originally Posted by Heater41

Unless of course they have multiple teams under multiple email addresses and are utilzing it to swap perfect points from one account to another.

And if that's going on, they'll be subsequently banned.

[Torgonius]

Originally Posted by dishnet34

In terms of those market prices for those low-overall players - that's just idiots being idiots. No reasonable person would buy at those prices and trying to sell them at those prices is a fool's errand.

I really hope there'll be changes to the auction house this coming version. It could only help.

Or it could be people fed up with the amount of cards with L10s not getting fixed back to their realistic levels (I'll take it on faith the team is still playing whack a mole with actual cheaters). deciding to list cards at memeable prices just because you can no longer estimate their value with any precision using the available tools.

Opening packs has become such a chore, and trying to find that 1 last card you need for a mission such an non-probable occurrence that there's nothing better to do.

Besides, it's still less of a clown show than MLB.

[professor ape]

While I expect that the team is still tracking offenders, we are very late in the PT22 cycle. It is quite played out at this point and not worth getting worked up over.

[Hertston]

It's not even just big amounts. I take it y'all have noticed the number of bronzes and MLB silvers with 'average prices' in the 500 to 1,200 range that have suddenly started appearing? Loads of the things. People keep listing them at those prices without any thought (nobody looks up bronzes before selling), but of course nobody is buying them in genuine transactions.

[Art99]

Maybe a partial solution is to impose a maximum price limit on all cards below platinum. FH3 missions are almost impossible to finish now because needed cards are never available on the AH. Even if they were available the missions costs 10x more to complete them then just buying the card. Takes the fun out of it.

I will,continue to play PT22 since I have put so much effort into it but unless some serious changes are made will skip PT23.

[Fabtron7]

Originally Posted by Hertston

It's not even just big amounts. I take it y'all have noticed the number of bronzes and MLB silvers with 'average prices' in the 500 to 1,200 range that have suddenly started appearing? Loads of the things. People keep listing them at those prices without any thought (nobody looks up bronzes before selling), but of course nobody is buying them in genuine transactions.

That's just supply and demand... nobody is ripping packs.

[Ty Cobb]

It's not supply and demand. It's organized price gouging, and it's been going on since day 1. They're just getting bolder now.

[Fabtron7]

I mean I’m not a fan of market manipulation and there were certainly a few little birds that were up to no good… but if you’re going to have an in-game economy where the players can set their own prices you have to expect costs to rise due to scarcity. Bronze and silver cards in the 500 to 1200 range have been commonplace all year.

[Hertston]

Originally Posted by Fabtron7

Bronze and silver cards in the 500 to 1200 range have been commonplace all year.

Not MLB ones? Some of the historic silvers went for a lot more, of course, especially those in the FH3 team missions. I recall the 'build a legend' bronze's were worth a fair bit at first, but nothing much else. That said, I wasn't really looking.

[professor ape]

Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

It's not supply and demand. It's organized price gouging, and it's been going on since day 1. They're just getting bolder now.

It only works if people are buying at the prices.

[Hertston]

Originally Posted by professor ape

It only works if people are buying at the prices.

Nobody is. I just had half-a-dozen of these out of a humble 2 SP win. All had between 10 and 25 cards for sale - without a single bid on any of them, even the few starting at normal prices.

[Heater41]

Originally Posted by Art99

Maybe a partial solution is to impose a maximum price limit on all cards below platinum. FH3 missions are almost impossible to finish now because needed cards are never available on the AH. Even if they were available the missions costs 10x more to complete them then just buying the card. Takes the fun out of it.

I will,continue to play PT22 since I have put so much effort into it but unless some serious changes are made will skip PT23.

Exactly..the collecting portion has zero value. While I won't skip PT23, I will keep using lower overall cards and stay in the lower divisions. Even in my gold division I am stagnant because of the number of diamnd level looking teams. I can't go back unless I dump and can't move forward.

[Hertston]

Originally Posted by Heater41

Exactly..the collecting portion has zero value. While I won't skip PT23, I will keep using lower overall cards and stay in the lower divisions.

No great loss for you. Diamond is almost totally stagnant now. Most people have money, I suspect, but there is rarely anything to spend it on and even when there is you need seven figures. I've accumulated over 700K just while waiting for anybody to crop up who might be marginally better than the players I (and everybody else) already have. In that time I've seen precisely one; Ty Cobb who was snapped up for 950K.

[Art99]

Yeah the number of top cards on the market now is almost zilch. I’m keeping my pp high and if someone I need is available will snag it instantly. Unless the card is ridiculously priced it’ll go fast. Gotta be on your toes and also hope to get lucky with tournament packs.

[professor ape]

The lack of supply is allowing me to stay in the pack game. Pretty much anything that I put up around the inflated L10 prices is getting scooped up. Just by keeping my tourney team going during work and reloading my auctions a few times per day, I have been opening 75-100 packs a day lately.

[ncap99]

Originally Posted by professor ape

The lack of supply is allowing me to stay in the pack game. Pretty much anything that I put up around the inflated L10 prices is getting scooped up. Just by keeping my tourney team going during work and reloading my auctions a few times per day, I have been opening 75-100 packs a day lately.

Yeah exactly. When prices inflate significantly (such as at the end of the cycle when supply is suppressed or right after a bunch of new missions release where demand is increased) you can pretty much break even ripping packs and selling duplicates.

But honestly I think people are just a bit bored with it at this point. The fact that we're now several months out from the last meaningful card release doesn't help either. I really hope they bank some decent cards for the end of the cycle next year.

[Bunktown Ballers]

[QUOTE=Heater41;4868693]The current market: 66 Dave Patterson 99,999,999 .... 68 Jacob Stallings 12,345,679 ... 51 Dario Agrazal 9,999,999 and so on is the exact reason I have zero interest in trying to move past gold. Even there, I always see a team or 3 with the same lineup all the diamond teams have. Market manipulation, multiple accounts and an out of control market for trying to complete FH3 missions (and others) is really hindering this game. I'm sitting with 366,233 perfect points and no way to improve the team. Nothing from a perfect pack helps and trying to buy a Randy Johnson, etc are over 500K. I feel like I am better off selling everything, dropping back to the beginning,and playing at the lower levels with golds and silvers (and/or utilizing players from my favorite team for enjoyment.) - off the soapbox I go. [/QUT




The game is broken and ruined for me. When so many people were giving millions of points (11+ million I understand) while everyone else started with 1,000. The 8 ball was so far ahead of us then those same players would lose on purpose to fall back and win 130+ games and start cycle over ...When does this season end..