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It's flat out wrong. I am pretty sure we outsell them 30:1 nowadays, at least.
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Funny this post came up. Just a few days I checked out what other sims were out there (I'm loyal to OOTP and preordered 17) just to compare.
There is no comparison. The other sims can't come close to OOTP for realistic features and options. And let's not even talk cost comparisons. The grass is not greener elsewhere. I'm not writing this because it's the OOTP board, but because it's the truth. No other baseball sim can hold a candle. Sure, others have some nice features, but nothing that isn't in OOTP. I'm sure others have good play engines and produce realistic results, but so does OOTP. Others have nice user interfaces, so does OOTP. Looking at what the others offer I honestly can't think of a reason to not continue with OOTP. OOTP has what the others have, and more.
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I went there to check if that really was a current selling point sheet on the Diamond Mind web site. Really? Adding player nicknames is new and big? Selling a game in 2016 and they just added 2013 historical data? Pretty sad.
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That's not fair or accurate, Bru. The DMB 2015 season has been out for a while.
http://diamond-mind.com/collections/...-database-2015
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Do you want to see what the average sports gamer thinks about computer baseball games?
11 Best Baseball Game and Season Simulators Note that it was updated a few weeks ago.
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@ Markus the guy NEVER said it was in any order.
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Eventually, other games had to start catching up to the underlying DMB engine, which is close to a decade old now. OOTP may be the best example of a game which is being continuously improved. The statistical output is accurate, the play by play improves every year, and playing out a game just feels much more like baseball than it did even three years ago. My opinion three years ago was that OOTP was the world's best baseball simulation except for actually playing the games. Now I don't think I need the qualifier.
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My thoughts exactly, AJ. At least they linked to OOTP.
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As far as realism OOTP can't even begin to compare with Diamond Mind. I was tired of paying the $20+ per season, but I guess what you pay for. I filled a legal size notepad with AI issues in OOTP that were simply absurd within the first hour of playing. 79 Tigers rolling through 75 Reds and 73 A's, horrible BP mgt, marginal starting pitchers throwing 8 innings of 2 hit ball on a routine basis, lineups all out of whack etc. Where to begin.
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If you think "realism" means that all mediocre pitchers allow 5-6 runs every start, never having good games or good stretches and that a decent but not great team could never beat a top team in a series or two (just look at any WS winning team's regular season results, all of them lost series and even season series against far, far inferior teams) then maybe the problem is more with your expectations than it is with OOTP. That's not to say there may not be some valid criticism's of OOTP that are possible, there certainly are. But if you actually think there's an issue with the game and want to see changes made, you're going to have to step up your own game as far as identifying and explaining any genuine issues. If you can do so, Markus, Matt and all the folks at OOTP will certainly be more than happy to make adjustments where needed, that's their hallmark after all. Clarification on what you mean by "horrible BP mgt" and "lineups all out of whack etc" would be a good place to begin. It also helps if you understand that Diamond Mind and OOTP have different intentions. Diamond Mind is intended to replay single seasons so that you get almost exactly the same results as happened in reality. OOTP is intended mostly for multi-season replays and for careers and includes more variability built into the model in recognition of the fact that if we were actually somehow able to replay a season, simple variability and randomness would result in different results than happened in the first time playing through the season i.e. "history". That model may not be your preference and that's fine if so, but it doesn't make the model any less realistic. Last edited by Lukas Berger; 08-09-2016 at 12:55 PM. |
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When I started playing OOTP a few years ago I couldn't believe I had never heard of it. It's amazing and nothing else I've seen is particularly close.
I used to be a big-time Strat guy and I still enjoy it occasionally. The one advantage the card/dice game has with historical replays is you can actually see the cards and see how the soup is made. You don't have to rely on some sort of computer formula to get your results. That said, OOTP has always been pretty awesome with its accuracy so I'm not complaining. It's just sometimes comforting to see the six columns in Strat and see where the percentages are coming from. What OOTP does with fictional and present-day leagues is way, WAY beyond anything Strat can accomplish. Last edited by JcBoscan; 08-10-2016 at 07:34 AM. |
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Played and enjoyed all the above. Not mentioned was another really good game back in the day made by Lance Hafner. He was ahead of his time.
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I used to play a game put out by Avalon Hill, can't remember the name though. Anyone play it?
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